https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/senate-bill/4361/text?s=3&r=1&q=%7B%22search%22%3A%22S.+4361%22%7D
Theres the bill, maybe do your own homework and come back with a level head; or dont and piss your big boy pants.

The United States sank over a trillion dollars into developing a prosperous democracy in Iraq; well over two trillion dollars trying to do the same in Afghanistan. How did it work out? It's surprisingly difficult to reconstruct thousands of years of civilizational development. The states which made the transition from third to first world all have significant historical experience (over thousands of years) with centralized government and the bureaucracy that goes along with it. Japan, South Korea, the Han Chinese in Taiwan and Singapore, and it took autocratic rule over a period of decades for that development to play out. Unless you plan on invading northern Mexico and subjecting the cartels to the Bukele treatment, you're throwing good money after bad.

We fundamentally do not possess the resources or the ability to make poor nations prosperous. Our politicians struggle doing that here, it's well beyond either their means or capabilities. What we can control is access to the border. We can control how we respond to crime, and whether or not we tolerate cartel trafficking and violence.

I've already read the bill. Please, enlighten me with what issue you have with it, aside from cult leader orange man saying not to pass it because it will make him look, well even worse than he already does.

This post was edited by Pyrotechx on Aug 30 2024 09:02pm

Giving foreign aid is not our "job". It's an "option" we have.

As for the border... there's no real problem with "legal" immigration. Except from countries we might be at war with, or countries that fanatically hate the US.
It's illegal immigration that's the problem.

This post was edited by Ghot on Aug 30 2024 11:10pm

There's been plenty of commentary on the bill in this thread. You're going to have to read.

You generally don't pass bills for the hell of it. The question "should we pass this bill?" carries a default "no" until an argument is made as to how the bill addresses the problem at hand. What is that argument?

Lol, just as I expected. You didn't read it. You can't think of anything.

Kneel to Trump.

In the book Capitalism, Alone Branko Milanovic talks about this as having two solutions, an international body that subsidizes every country, or that every country eventually comes to equal economic power, both impossibly unlikely, even moreso today than when the book was published. It seems irrelevant though: if a country had harsh immigration laws that were enforced, and people knew they had no hopes of getting in I imagine they wouldn't bother. It seems to me people have flocked to America because of how laxed the system is.

In Canada, you make more $ as a migrant who just arrived than a citizen who been paying taxes his whole life. How you may ask? By exploiting every loopholes and gov handouts. Soon to in an American city near you. You guys want it? You'll get it. Keep being brainwashed by the corporate medias who want even more profits. Heck you guys gave em billions for a flu vaccine and extra boosters during that 2 weeks to flatten the curve.

immigration needs to be tightly enforced to ensure only desirable members of society are being let in

only working class highly skilled men and women

next we need to go even further and start evaluating the domestic undesirables
multicolored hair? over the border you go
majored in sociology? go live in a socialist country
supporting radical islamists? 1 way flight to gaza

how bout close borders and no foreign aid