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Quote (YeeHaw @ Aug 21 2024 12:32pm)
Uh, there is a focus on the medical institutions. We are science deniers. That means we have criticisms of major medical institutions………………………..

You mentioned specifically daily wire hosts, and the daily wire has covered the views and actions of basically every major medical institution on this matter over the past few years. It is easy to ignore showing as each host produces easily five hours of content each week with absolutely zero unbiased exposure given to those who don’t actually subscribe.


I can tell you with 100% certainty, the daily wire has been on the morally correct side of this issue since day 1, ya’ll just don’t know that.


That's why I'm asking through, because I'm not as entrenched in conservative spaces to get as broad a view of what's out there. I do see that the Daily Wire has posted about WPATH, so I appreciate you mentioning it. It doesn't seem like those posts get the same level of engagement though, so I don't know how prominent it is.
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Quote (Handcuffs @ Aug 21 2024 08:23pm)
Their content is consumed though by everyday conservatives. To what extent, I'm not sure, and is why I'm inquiring.


What would those everyday conservatives do when engaging with a transgender person? Treat them with respect and not intend to offend them in any way, much more often than not.

Conservatives have their gripes with the woke agenda where they perceive too much is defined by race, white guilty, and gender identity, as opposed to defining the individual.
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What would those everyday conservatives do when engaging with a transgender person? Treat them with respect and not intend to offend them in any way, much more often than not.

Conservatives have their gripes with the woke agenda where they perceive too much is defined by race, white guilty, and gender identity, as opposed to defining the individual.


I would imagine, or at least hope so, yes. At the same time, I don't know that many conservatives have meaningful interactions with people that they know who are transgender such that that actually plays out in real life. I can only speak to what I see online though, limited as my perspective is.
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I would imagine, or at least hope so, yes. At the same time, I don't know that many conservatives have meaningful interactions with people that they know who are transgender such that that actually plays out in real life. I can only speak to what I see online though, limited as my perspective is.


Well if you're just talking about everyday people I have never once personally even ran into a transgender person in my life. I don't think it's a normal daily interaction unless you work with a transgender person or perhaps they work or go to some establishments you frequent in which case I'd imagine they just for the most part get treated like any other patron there.

Media certainly does not represent everyday people for the most part. It's polarizing and doom and gloom always because that's what gets views.

Such a small % of the population I can't imagine anyone goes out of their way to just start acting differently, at least majority speaking.

I have my own views on such things but I wouldn't let those views change how I just go about my daily interactions just like I have my views on obesity but still treat my overweight coworkers with the same respect as anyone else.

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Quote (majorblood @ Aug 21 2024 05:04am)
Yeah I suspect that to happen

specifically handcuffs mentioned "TikTok reaction videos (I've seen Ben Shapiro and Candace Owens do this in particular), and share other forms of content where then conservatives absolutely eviscerate the people featured in terms of their physical appearance, attire, speech, mannerisms, etc."

I would expect those people to generally not hate or dehumanize the individual but see them as a victim and detest the ideology when taken at a deeper level. I can definitely imagine an immediate disgust or disapproval reaction to absurd outward appearances though


Nawh it's pretty much a hatred for the individual in a majority of cases
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Nawh it's pretty much a hatred for the individual in a majority of cases


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When I was four or five I was walking through the grocery store with my mum, and we came across one aisle intersection and there was a swarthy looking man in a red dress wearing a wig, makeup, and pearl earrings, five o'clock shadow and all.
It was very disturbing to me, as an adult I'd laugh, but as a small child I found it horrific.

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When I was four or five I was walking through the grocery store with my mum, and we came across one aisle intersection and there was a swarthy looking man in a red dress wearing a wig, makeup, and pearl earrings, five o'clock shadow and all.
It was very disturbing to me, as an adult I'd laugh, but as a small child I found it horrific.


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I have a legitimate question for resident conservatives about the discourse around transgender people within your spaces. I do try and see what conservatives have to say on this, but I'm left confused and hoping that folks can elucidate:

It appears that the prevailing opinion among conservatives is that transgender people / "transgenderism" is a mental illness. I'm not going to question that position, and want to accept that that is how it is viewed (but am happy to also hear that my understanding is incorrect). Given that the prevailing opinion is that this is a form of mental illness, I wonder what are the standards, principles, or expectations amongst conservatives for when you speak about, or with each other about, people with mental illness?

As an outsider, it seems commonplace that people make transgender compilation videos, TikTok reaction videos (I've seen Ben Shapiro and Candace Owens do this in particular), and share other forms of content where then conservatives absolutely eviscerate the people featured in terms of their physical appearance, attire, speech, mannerisms, etc. This I find difficult to understand or reconcile. I've not seen or heard a conservative thought leader speak out and say that if this is the prevailing conservative opinion, then we should be intentional about how we speak about people with mental illness. I believe conservatives would not find this same behavior acceptable if it were done about people with other forms of mental illness, or at least that is my hope. For some reason though, transgender people are seemingly an exception.

I welcome thoughts and reactions. Thanks!

I am conservative and I think too much emphasis, energy and time is spent to discuss what's inbetween the legs.
I'd rather both the liberals and conservatives would talk more about affordable housing, inflation and the average income of the average joy and would invest the same amount of energy. We don't need super rich telling the rest how they are supposed to live and even more homeless or poor households. Most households should belong to the middle class. I sincerely don't care what people do behind the doors or what their kink or gender identities are.
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I have a legitimate question for resident conservatives about the discourse around transgender people within your spaces. I do try and see what conservatives have to say on this, but I'm left confused and hoping that folks can elucidate:

It appears that the prevailing opinion among conservatives is that transgender people / "transgenderism" is a mental illness. I'm not going to question that position, and want to accept that that is how it is viewed (but am happy to also hear that my understanding is incorrect). Given that the prevailing opinion is that this is a form of mental illness, I wonder what are the standards, principles, or expectations amongst conservatives for when you speak about, or with each other about, people with mental illness?

As an outsider, it seems commonplace that people make transgender compilation videos, TikTok reaction videos (I've seen Ben Shapiro and Candace Owens do this in particular), and share other forms of content where then conservatives absolutely eviscerate the people featured in terms of their physical appearance, attire, speech, mannerisms, etc. This I find difficult to understand or reconcile. I've not seen or heard a conservative thought leader speak out and say that if this is the prevailing conservative opinion, then we should be intentional about how we speak about people with mental illness. I believe conservatives would not find this same behavior acceptable if it were done about people with other forms of mental illness, or at least that is my hope. For some reason though, transgender people are seemingly an exception.

I welcome thoughts and reactions. Thanks!



As with any other group I don’t agree with, it’s the agenda I have issues with or the trade-off that’s slowly happening between their comfort and my freedom. I have nothing against the individuals and I’ll treat them with respect as I do with everyone I meet, though I won’t go out of my way to meet with or associate with them.

People are mean online, that’s nothing new. It you give them any reason to attack you (that reason doesn’t need to be real to you), they’ll find a way to hurt your feelings by attacking any trait or perceived weakness. However, that’s online behaviour, I don’t think they’d insult someone in real life only because of their sexual orientation or gender expression; some will but it’s a tiny minority.

I don’t think gender dysphoria is a mental illness per se, but it’s certainly associated with a host of actual mental illnesses. I understand the need to eliminate the stigma that comes with being diagnosed with a mental illness, but it shouldn’t get in the way of treatment for comorbidities. I guess a disorder would be a better terminology to explain it, as it was prior to the DSM-5.
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