I suspect attitudes change with exposure. Certainly there's a rise in anti-immigration attitudes now here in Canada. More than i've ever seen. Is it justified always, pretty debatable, often macro events now are being blamed on immigration but simply QoL has declined for Canadians and now 1/4 are living below the poverty line and something needs to be blamed. There certainly is contributing factors though tied to the immigration, and while I don't sit in an anti-immigration camp, I do believe our country is administering it so poorly its making things worse.

But as you said before, the influx and attempt to solve a problem with a band-aid rather than long term solutions, that's what Canada is doing too and its not working well.

This post was edited by SBD on Aug 6 2024 11:58am

Is this a passive aggressive way for one country to attack another?
With immigration that is.

This post was edited by Mondain on Aug 6 2024 12:08pm

Give all the benefits to the illegals so the citizens can suffer. Plus all the crimes they commit are costing even more money.

US for instance requires a long process to bring a spouse or family over and one has to prove sponsorship but if you’re illegal, you just walk right in.

For some reason, mass immigration is happening everywhere recently, before it was better controlled. Its as if it’s done on purpose.

There is no debate in this, it’s 100% wrong otherwise why would we need laws. But if left wants to be so humane about it then those who support wars should think twice. Why pump money into weapons when there’s world hunger.

At the end of the day, it’s not even far right that’s protesting at this point, minorities whom were recent immigrants are against this. The news wants to make it sound like far right are the only ones protesting so that it divides people, turn it into left vs right where one support and one against, just another brainwashing tactic.

This post was edited by Tarisus on Aug 6 2024 12:17pm

basically yeah, its an invasion that is enabled by exploiting naive people

Isn't it funny how politicians pretend this is such a complex issue that no western country can apparently solve? It's always the fall back to inaction. How about severely cutting social benefits? How about mandating language courses to receive such benefits? How about mandates that you have to be employed in XX time and if you refuse your benefits are cut. For illegal immigration- don't issues a drivers license, don't issue any legal document and so on, make it incredibly difficult to rent, make it punitive for business owners and landlords for illegal subleasing and so on.

My wife had a Bangladeshi friend that literally would teach all of her family on how to game the system. They would receive thousands of dollars for taking care of their own parents (while instructing their parents how to falsify answers to qualify for these programs, basically pretend you can't walk, bathe yourself, feed yourself, etc) and then would save up these funds, pool them and then go buy properties to rent out and cash flow while building equity. So essentially building wealth on the back of gaming the social safety net system.

I'm an immigrant and this isn't the way. Western countries provide more than a few ways to build wealth in an honest way, something that many ex soviet states or other parts of the globe you don't have. A lot of immigrants 1st gen, 2nd gen have kids that are doctors, lawyers, etc, because they clawed and scratched and made it happen through their work ethic. That should be the standard and way forward, not getting a masters in bleeding the system dry.

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Aug 6 2024 12:51pm

Canada has just allowed full fledged businesses to exist on how to game the system. You can argue that they always did exist. Back in my days of public practice we offered immigration services and essentially we would get them through legally, be it finding some business they could purchase that met the dollar threshold, moving accounts around, etc. It meant you needed money though. But now, its like Get Cash now businesses, its for the masses and its being left unchecked.

Does "more left wing" mean "wants less immigrants" or "wants more immigrants" in the UK context?

More open to immigration and pro-EU.

I wonder if that opinion will change when they become more diverse. easy to be pro immigration when you're not affected by immigration.

Exactly. Its great until its in your neighbourhood.