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Jul 6 2024 07:51am
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Jul 6 2024 05:24am)
Correct, but it was 57 times as many shooting as those countries combined.

The difference in population is about 25million more in the US.
About 7.5% more.
For 57 times as many school shootings.

Those numbers indicate a problem, by any rational set of beliefs.

We can disagree on how important of a problem that is but common sense would suggest it should be a priority for a great nation not to have their kids school shot up 57 times more than another industrialized nation.

Again I totally think the US is a great nation but many aspects are squishy targets for anyone being critical. That could include Americans.
Gun crime, opioid crisis, homelessness, wealth disparity, workers rights.

Aside from gun crime.european countries have all of those issues too at similar extents. But they also have a way stronger social safety net; some might even argue its too strong, bloated and wasteful. Benefits, national health care etc.


Point being is that relative to the amount of guns in the U.S. it's really not bad at all. The truth is that shool shootings are overstated, usually by the extreme left media anti-gun nuts. Awful when they happen? Absolutely. But chances of dying in a school shooting are incredibly low and it's extremely rare. Much bigger issues to focus on causing a LOT more deaths in the U.S.

And one thing that is for sure, you're not taking guns from Murica. That'll never happen.
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Jul 7 2024 05:01am
Quote (Sixers @ Jul 5 2024 04:43pm)
Between 2010-2020, 539 Americans died in mass shootings. That's a 1.6 in 1 Million chance of dying in a mass shooting.

During that same time, France saw 168 mass shooting deaths. That's a 2.49 in 1 Million chance of dying in a mass shooting.

This means during that decade, your chances of dying in a mass shooting were significantly higher in France, a country that has strict gun laws, than they were in the U.S, a country with more civilian owned guns than civilians.


But carry on...


Bro 99% of mass shootings are gang violence, and an even higher percentage of “kids” being shot are in gangs and are anybody under 20.

Don’t play these moron’s games. They are the dumbest people on the planet. They truly believe the sun monster will be defeated by voting for democrats.
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Jul 7 2024 11:43am
Quote (Sixers @ 6 Jul 2024 08:51)
Point being is that relative to the amount of guns in the U.S. it's really not bad at all. The truth is that shool shootings are overstated, usually by the extreme left media anti-gun nuts. Awful when they happen? Absolutely. But chances of dying in a school shooting are incredibly low and it's extremely rare. Much bigger issues to focus on causing a LOT more deaths in the U.S.

And one thing that is for sure, you're not taking guns from Murica. That'll never happen.


Quote (YeeHaw @ 7 Jul 2024 06:01)
Bro 99% of mass shootings are gang violence, and an even higher percentage of “kids” being shot are in gangs and are anybody under 20.

Don’t play these moron’s games. They are the dumbest people on the planet. They truly believe the sun monster will be defeated by voting for democrats.


Why do people who aren't from America always bring up the "gun crimes" and "school shootings" but never bring up the anti-psychotics these KIDS are on when they shoot up a school.

Why is it that in Chicago where I've lived my entire life "gun crimes" are committed by gang members and just out right goons not "responsible gun owners".

Dumbest arguments I ever see are these ones. Look at just the last few weekends in Chicago and MUTIPLE people DEAD but you'll never hear it on the news.

So when a bunch of gangsters kill each other and kill innocent bystanders it's just chalked up by US MSM as "no big deal" but then if a white kid on anti-psychotics kills 3+ people it's headline news.

Gun crimes go unreported in Chicago for a reason (snitches get stitches) and because they stopped using the "Gun fire detection system" because it was "racist ai software" because 90% of all shootings were happening in predominantly black neighborhoods.

My guess is probably 100+ DEAD/wounded in Chicago from "gun crime" in-between any major US shooting but because it happens everyday there's no way to "hype it" the way they use "school shootings".

I laugh at people who say its anything but that but I live near a city nicknamed "Chiraq".
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Jul 7 2024 02:41pm
Quote (SwamiVivekananda @ Jul 7 2024 12:43pm)
Why do people who aren't from America always bring up the "gun crimes" and "school shootings" but never bring up the anti-psychotics these KIDS are on when they shoot up a school.

Why is it that in Chicago where I've lived my entire life "gun crimes" are committed by gang members and just out right goons not "responsible gun owners".

Dumbest arguments I ever see are these ones. Look at just the last few weekends in Chicago and MUTIPLE people DEAD but you'll never hear it on the news.

So when a bunch of gangsters kill each other and kill innocent bystanders it's just chalked up by US MSM as "no big deal" but then if a white kid on anti-psychotics kills 3+ people it's headline news.

Gun crimes go unreported in Chicago for a reason (snitches get stitches) and because they stopped using the "Gun fire detection system" because it was "racist ai software" because 90% of all shootings were happening in predominantly black neighborhoods.

My guess is probably 100+ DEAD/wounded in Chicago from "gun crime" in-between any major US shooting but because it happens everyday there's no way to "hype it" the way they use "school shootings".

I laugh at people who say its anything but that but I live near a city nicknamed "Chiraq".


It’s because these lunatics love when black gang members kill each other because it quietly racks up violence statistics while being detrimental to black neighborhoods. Killing two birds with one stone.
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Jul 7 2024 05:02pm
Quote (YeeHaw @ 7 Jul 2024 15:41)
It’s because these lunatics love when black gang members kill each other because it quietly racks up violence statistics while being detrimental to black neighborhoods. Killing two birds with one stone.


https://abc7chicago.com/post/chicago-shootings-weekend-least-87-shot-16-fatally/15038496/

87 shot 16 fatally where's the mainstream media to cover the "mass shooting" in Chicago this week?

Oh it's just a bunch of poor black on black shootings in the hood(no story there everyone move along now).

That's the cowardice of the mostly rich white liberals who want to take everyone's guns.

Not a single outcry EVER about the WORST city in the US when it comes to "gun violence" because it doesn't suit their agenda.

Chicago- "Let's ban guns it'll reduce gun crime!" Let's put up no-gun zones that'll stop a criminal from using one here! Lets use a "gun shot detection system" to allow police to respond to gun violence quicker!

Also Chicago- BAN the gunshot detection sytem it's inherently racist!

Love hearing people who've never been in real danger talk about how other people shouldn't have a means to defend themselves while they live in a gated community with armed gaurds....sureeeeeee
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Jul 14 2024 01:17pm
The Satanic double meaning for the " Independance Day " is really a celebration about being godless and sinful. With that Liberty Statue representing Lucifer
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