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May 2 2024 05:31pm
Quote (babun1024 @ May 2 2024 03:19pm)
And what you describe over there is done by force through politics. I don't believe even for a second that girls/women are comfortable in a locker room with a mtf transgender.
https://www.news.com.au/sport/olympics/swimming/outrage-as-swimmer-left-in-tears-over-transgender-locker-room/news-story/7831792c41e34dc6d27fa3a4b71ee9cb

I don't have a problem with gay people. Male person in a male space is not a danger to anyone, if he is then men can defend themselves.


How would you know this? Were you born a woman? Have you done a proper survey of US women to find their opinion? Or is this based on the current culture you live in?

Are you implying gay predators do not exist? Have you not kept up with current events such as Diddy?

Not sure where you’re from but men come in all shapes and sizes here. It’s not uncommon to have kids having a 100-200lb weight difference amongst their peers. You can’t defend against something like that without a weapon

The 2nd amendment exists so we usually have the right to carry around defense weapons. Women aren’t excluded and they can also change elsewhere if uncomfortable. I’m curious to know where you would tell a MTF passing individual to go. Wouldn’t it put them in jeopardy if you forced them to go in the men’s room using your reasoning?

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How would you know this? Were you born a woman? Have you done a proper survey of US women to find their opinion? Or is this based on the current culture you live in?

Are you implying gay predators do not exist? Have you not kept up with current events such as Diddy?

Not sure where you’re from but men come in all shapes and sizes here. It’s not uncommon to have kids having a 100-200lb weight difference amongst their peers. You can’t defend against something like that without a weapon

The 2nd amendment exists so we usually have the right to carry around defense weapons. Women aren’t excluded and they can also change elsewhere if uncomfortable. I’m curious to know where you would tell a MTF passing individual to go. Wouldn’t it put them in jeopardy if you forced them to go in the men’s room using your reasoning?


Brain wiring is not a matter of opinion. You guys make it as if it is a matter of opinion. Male on male violence is the highest among all of other types. Gay people aren't exempt either nor mtf transgenders. Women are physically weak, they can't defend themselves against real predators. Is your suggestion for women to carry a gun in their locker room, so they just can change their clothes in peace? :lol:
Another deluded leftoid..

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Brain wiring is not a matter of opinion. You guys make it as if it is a matter of opinion. Male on male violence is the highest among all of other types. Gay people aren't exempt either nor mtf transgenders. Women are physically weak, they can't defend themselves against real predators. Is your suggestion for women to carry a gun in their locker room, so they just can change their clothes in peace? :lol:
Another deluded leftoid..


Cultures having differences and society progressing over time is not a matter of opinion. One thing acceptable in the US is vastly illegal in Asia or the Middle East. You cannot project your values onto others and spout it as fact.
Male on male violence is the highest, yet you did not mention or address the issue of a 120 lb man running into the same issue if a 300lb gay predator is in the same bathroom? The weapon argument was to show you it's not about them being defenseless. There are ways to defend yourself against things that are physically stronger than you. There's also the fact you can change elsewhere if you aren't comfortable. Are you mandated to change in a public locker every time you need different clothes in your culture?

The assaulting random people comment you made makes sense now. You're controlled by your emotions

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Cultures having differences and society progressing over time is not a matter of opinion. One thing acceptable in the US is vastly illegal in Asia or the Middle East. You cannot project your values onto others and spout it as fact.
Male on male violence is the highest, yet you did not mention or address the issue of a 120 lb man running into the same issue if a 300lb gay predator is in the same bathroom? The weapon argument was to show you it's not about them being defenseless. There are ways to defend yourself against things that are physically stronger than you. There's also the fact you can change elsewhere if you aren't comfortable. Are you mandated to change in a public locker every time you need different clothes in your culture?

The assaulting random people comment you made makes sense now. You're controlled by your emotions


Nope, not by emotions, by maths. Let's take your bogus examples apart:
1. Male and female brains are fundamentally different when kids are born. You can shape the social part through learning but certain biological markers/tendencies are unchangeable. I am talking about the brain. It's not a matter of opinion. Cite me your source if you disagree.
2. The difference between two males in an assault you described is a statistic outlier. Whereas almost every single male can physically overwhelm a female subtracting the extreme outliers. Your solution to carry weapon to change clothes is well, laughable. The other solution, let them change elsewhere if they're uncomfortable. Why have a locker room in the first place then? Do you want to be allowed to enter a female locker room as a man? THat would be an interesting question because ftm transgender is still a male in brain wiring.
3. In none of the cultures you mentioned, a man can enter a female locker room. There goes the cultural difference out of the window.
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Nope, not by emotions, by maths. Let's take your bogus examples apart:
1. Male and female brains are fundamentally different when kids are born. You can shape the social part through learning but certain biological markers/tendencies are unchangeable. I am talking about the brain. It's not a matter of opinion. Cite me your source if you disagree.
2. The difference between two males in an assault you described is a statistic outlier. Whereas almost every single male can physically overwhelm a female subtracting the extreme outliers. Your solution to carry weapon to change clothes is well, laughable. The other solution, let them change elsewhere if they're uncomfortable. Why have a locker room in the first place then? Do you want to be allowed to enter a female locker room as a man? THat would be an interesting question because ftm transgender is still a male in brain wiring.
3. In none of the cultures you mentioned, a man can enter a female locker room. There goes the cultural difference out of the window.


1. Not how burden of proof works. You made a claim and have to back it up now. Which biological markers are unchangeable despite HRT and other gender affirming care during transition? And how does this support your argument that trans people will assault others if they're allowed in their gender identites bathroom? You also still have not addressed the gay male aspect which is a huge flaw in your logic. "Statistic outlier" doesn't cut it if you don't provide that statistic or source
2. Is it a statistical outlier, or is it vastly underreported because of the stigma? Female on male rape is already vastly underreported for the same reason. You've also only linked to sources showing an outlier where the first one was a repeat sexual offender, and the second was a single athlete that reported being uncomfortable sharing a locker room with a trans individual. Carrying a weapon to defend yourself is literally US culture especially when it comes to women traveling alone in public, not sure why you're attempting to dismiss it despite you not even living here or experiencing our culture lol. We rarely use locker rooms here outside of gyms, and most people go home to change instead.
3. Which cultures did I mention? I'd be interested to hear that as I never explained any. Many cultures have Unisex/Coed/Communal bathrooms, bathhouses, showers & locker rooms though. Edit: Oh wait are you referring to Asia doesn't have unisex bathhouses? That's even more intimate lol.

At the end of the day do you realize restrooms didn't start out seperated by gender? It's a fairly recent iteration that's being walked back to an extent. Same thing that happens to racially segregated public spaces eventually being abolished due to irrational stigma



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Quote (babun1024 @ 2 May 2024 22:57)
Nope, a trangender is another human being. If that person asks me to call him/her they/them, I won't comply. I won't treat a male to female transgender as female and a female to male transgender as male. If I ever see a male to female transgender in a female locker room I'd beat the shit out of that person.


Like women need a fragile male criminal to solve their locker room problems, if it's even a problem for them.
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Quote (BaHgerAUT @ May 3 2024 08:46am)
Like women need a fragile male criminal to solve their locker room problems, if it's even a problem for them.


I'm not a criminal and not a fragile beta cuck. Mtf trangender don't belong to woman's safe spaces just as much as men. None of you answered whether it is ok to enter a female locker room as a man.
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1. Not how burden of proof works. You made a claim and have to back it up now. Which biological markers are unchangeable despite HRT and other gender affirming care during transition? And how does this support your argument that trans people will assault others if they're allowed in their gender identites bathroom? You also still have not addressed the gay male aspect which is a huge flaw in your logic. "Statistic outlier" doesn't cut it if you don't provide that statistic or source
2. Is it a statistical outlier, or is it vastly underreported because of the stigma? Female on male rape is already vastly underreported for the same reason. You've also only linked to sources showing an outlier where the first one was a repeat sexual offender, and the second was a single athlete that reported being uncomfortable sharing a locker room with a trans individual. Carrying a weapon to defend yourself is literally US culture especially when it comes to women traveling alone in public, not sure why you're attempting to dismiss it despite you not even living here or experiencing our culture lol. We rarely use locker rooms here outside of gyms, and most people go home to change instead.
3. Which cultures did I mention? I'd be interested to hear that as I never explained any. Many cultures have Unisex/Coed/Communal bathrooms, bathhouses, showers & locker rooms though. Edit: Oh wait are you referring to Asia doesn't have unisex bathhouses? That's even more intimate lol.

At the end of the day do you realize restrooms didn't start out seperated by gender? It's a fairly recent iteration that's being walked back to an extent. Same thing that happens to racially segregated public spaces eventually being abolished due to irrational stigma


Again, dodging, I gave a source in comment #31. I can give you a wall of sources. The conclusion shouldn't be to make males into females or vica versa but to separate and teach children diffirently based on sex, for they have different difficulties.
Girls/women develop their frontal cortex faster than boys at the age of 16 already, while an average male needs to about 21 to make the same judgement a woman/girl does. Women/girls can think/feel at the same time, a man like me and you can't imagine that because we're not like them. And you don't decide as a man for women what's best for them, they do themselves. They don't want men in their safe spaces in all cultures. Mtf trangender is male with extra steps.

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Quote (babun1024 @ 3 May 2024 09:14)
I'm not a criminal and not a fragile beta cuck. Mtf trangender don't belong to woman's safe spaces just as much as men. None of you answered whether it is ok to enter a female locker room as a man.


Beating someone up is a crime. Let the affected women decide it for themselves. They don't need you to solve it for them.
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Beating someone up is a crime. Let the affected women decide it for themselves. They don't need you to solve it for them.


I'll let the women decide as well. If they disagree, I'd beat that person up.
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Only 2, male and female.
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