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Dec 10 2023 08:20pm
Quote (El1te @ Dec 10 2023 08:14pm)
CRISPR, not including hypothetical CRISPR therapy, is a great invention for gene research no doubt. Nobel-prize worthy, much like Electrospray ionization which revolutionized small and large molecule analysis. But neither are scientifically groundbreaking towards our understanding of natural law - both of them are however great inventions.
The only failing would be to waste an additional 3 years of my valuable time learning nothing while being paid less than nothing (even the highest level scholarship, awarded to 1 candidate, pays the equivalent of 25 dollars per hour) getting a degree that serves no purpose other than a presentable token in certain positions to appease clients.
The only reason I would do a PhD is if a company will pay me my full salary to do it. Otherwise, one is a total fool to do a PhD without drawing a proper salary. In fact, the vast majority of PhD graduates are fools who go on to have no ROI for their 4 years of slavery that they wouldn't have with just an MSc.
To add I'm not from America where MScs don't functionally exist stand-alone. I never declared to do a PhD


"Scientifically groundbreaking" discoveries are like, once every 200+ year things, if at all. We've only hand a single digit number of "scientific revolutions" in our entire species. No reason to expect one within 100 years of the last.

Although efficiently trainable AI might end up being one. We'll have to see where that plays out.
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Dec 10 2023 08:21pm
Quote (JessiWan @ Dec 10 2023 08:09pm)
Lmao Netflix. Why do you fight with everyone.


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Dec 10 2023 08:23pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Dec 10 2023 05:48pm)
I think as long as they get the right stem cells (BIIIIIG IF) then the marrow will re-grow after and propagate to the rest of the relavent bone cavities. So theoretically, they don't need that much successful bone marrow to transplan. Just to keep the patient in isolation for several months.


I wish i could find the article from stat I was reading, but they need to harvest a lot of blood for a few weeks just to get enough cells to edit. Then you get your marrow nuked and you sit in isolation to regrow. It's a whole process. It is wild how we went 11 years from discovery to patient treatments though.

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CRISPR, not including hypothetical CRISPR therapy, is a great invention for gene research no doubt. Nobel-prize worthy, much like Electrospray ionization which revolutionized small and large molecule analysis. But neither are scientifically groundbreaking towards our understanding of natural law - both of them are however great inventions.

The only failing would be to waste an additional 3 years of my valuable time learning nothing while being paid less than nothing (even the highest level scholarship, awarded to 1 candidate, pays the equivalent of 25 dollars per hour) getting a degree that serves no purpose other than a presentable token in certain positions to appease clients.

The only reason I would do a PhD is if a company will pay me my full salary to do it. Otherwise, one is a total fool to do a PhD without drawing a proper salary. In fact, the vast majority of PhD graduates are fools who go on to have no ROI for their 4 years of slavery that they wouldn't have with just an MSc.


Fundamental misunderstanding of a PhD. You're not supposed to be learning, you're making an active contribution to the field as a whole. You're discovering. It can be a hard switch to flip for some people to go from tell me how it is, to I've demonstrated how it is for the first time.
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Quote (Sioux @ Dec 10 2023 06:23pm)

Fundamental misunderstanding of a PhD. You're not supposed to be learning, you're making an active contribution to the field as a whole. You're discovering. It can be a hard switch to flip for some people to go from tell me how it is, to I've demonstrated how it is for the first time.


I think he's saying that a big part of it is that the pay is shitty.
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Dec 10 2023 08:36pm
Quote (JessiWan @ Dec 10 2023 08:28pm)
I think he's saying that a big part of it is that the pay is shitty.


The pay is indeed shitty.

But I don't think he's being honest. He opened with how he didn't complete it because antisemitism. Which colors the rest of his changing explanation as cope.

and since I've talked to him several times, and realized he has a very poor understanding of science, that reinforces that it's cope.
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Quote (Thor123422 @ Dec 10 2023 06:36pm)
The pay is indeed shitty.

But I don't think he's being honest. He opened with how he didn't complete it because antisemitism. Which colors the rest of his changing explanation as cope.

and since I've talked to him several times, and realized he has a very poor understanding of science, that reinforces that it's cope.


He works as a chemist though. He must know something.
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Quote (Sioux @ Dec 10 2023 06:23pm)
I wish i could find the article from stat I was reading, but they need to harvest a lot of blood for a few weeks just to get enough cells to edit. Then you get your marrow nuked and you sit in isolation to regrow. It's a whole process. It is wild how we went 11 years from discovery to patient treatments though.



Fundamental misunderstanding of a PhD. You're not supposed to be learning, you're making an active contribution to the field as a whole. You're discovering. It can be a hard switch to flip for some people to go from tell me how it is, to I've demonstrated how it is for the first time.


The main issue is that the active contribution to the field in question is typically very low impact or otherwise irrelevant. It depends on how many citations your work gets & how the knowledge is propagated forward but that is the very small minority of PhD work. In reality, it's whatever your professor can get by convincing the grant committee, and then using a small fraction of that money to hire what are in essence slave workers to do work for the professors benefit.

It's a big club and you ain't in it unless you're a tenured professor, and even then you must toe the line or be ostracized. Such is the reality of academia.

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The main issue is that the active contribution to the field in question is typically very low impact or otherwise irrelevant. It depends on how many citations your work gets & how the knowledge is propagated forward but that is the very small minority of PhD work. In reality, it's whatever your professor can get by convincing the grant committee, and then using a small fraction of that money to hire what are in essence slave workers to do work for the professors benefit.

It's a big club and you ain't in it unless you're a tenured professor, and even then you must toe the line or be ostracized. Such is the reality of academia.


I think this has merit. When I was in uni, I had heard of cases where the professor "stole" his PhD student's ideas and passed them off as his own.

It's not purely intellectual/academic as some might think. There is a lot of politics involved.
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Dec 10 2023 09:14pm
"Nature v. Nurture" is still compelling to some, eh?
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Quote (Handcuffs @ Dec 10 2023 07:14pm)
"Nature v. Nurture" is still compelling to some, eh?


Very, sir.
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