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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Oct 4 2023 02:28am)
Why would they?
They stand to benefit if Republicans prove unable to elect a new Speaker. They might even be able to get Jeffries elected new Speaker if a handful of moderate Republicans become sick and tired of the clownshow by Gaetz et al.


I would venture to assume that "moderate Republicans", who support sending endless billions to some shithole (against the will of the majority of Americans if that matters) as their own country is being invaded by endless waves of illegal aliens, are the clownshow.

If USA has any hope to save itself, the GOP establishment as it is today - will fight their own supporters to the death to prevent their chance to even reach that glimmer of an attempt at salvation.

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Quote (tagged4nothing @ Oct 3 2023 06:39pm)
a "senator" can't "take" classified documents. they can request to "view" them. am i wrong?


Tell me what his most recent position was before being president.

I'll wait

Also yes, senators can take classified documents. I didn't answer initially because I genuinely thought you were being stupid on purpose. Senators often get significant security clearances.

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Is anybody else tired of the usual suspects spinning literally every single anything to ever happen in American politics into, “republicans are bad, mmkay”?
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ 3 Oct 2023 19:28)
Why would they?
They stand to benefit if Republicans prove unable to elect a new Speaker. They might even be able to get Jeffries elected new Speaker if a handful of moderate Republicans become sick and tired of the clownshow by Gaetz et al.


this or just all the fallout republicans will get from moderates just another handful of people that are sick and tired of the republican clown show so if the dems let it all happen they can kinda just laugh with popcorn and mayne win the speakership in the end wouldnt that be fucking leet

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Is anybody else tired of the usual suspects spinning literally every single anything to ever happen in American politics into, “republicans are bad, mmkay”?


its a republican controlled house and they can't elect their own speaker and they waste all this tax payer money while Biden pushes through the PAC act CHIPs act Infrastrucure bills, removes student debt etc etc fucking clown show

maybe if you actually read the newspaper and knew anyhting about anything you would undeerstand what the old normal was and based against the old normalities of po9litics and real life we can see that everything involving republicans is a compelte dumpster fire currently

'why is everyone around me saying the same exact thing?!?! i dont get it'



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Tell me what his most recent position was before being president.

I'll wait

Between 2013 and 2020, Biden was a private citizen. What was the legal basis for him to be in possession of classified documents during this timeframe?

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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Oct 3 2023 06:46pm)
Between 2013 and 2020, Biden was a private citizen. What was the legal basis for him to be in possession of classified documents during this timeframe?


Update your time frame.

Biden didn't intentionally keep documents (Trump did) and when requested he returned them (Trump didnt) and Trump lied on sworn statements to the government that he had returned all the documents despite knowing he didn't.

Both were treated with kid gloves until Trump actively obstructed.

This is such an obvious open and shut case that anybody defending trump can be immediately written off as a hack with zero further evidence needed

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Quote (Black XistenZ @ 3 Oct 2023 23:28)
Why would they?
They stand to benefit if Republicans prove unable to elect a new Speaker. They might even be able to get Jeffries elected new Speaker if a handful of moderate Republicans become sick and tired of the clownshow by Gaetz et al.


They can bypass the gaetz group blockade, so they are king/speaker makers. They may chose one who is deliberately stupid and/or moderated, no idea how it exactly works in their lobbies.
I doubt republicans accept a democratic speaker, it would be a political suicide/disavowal, right ?
After that Gaetz group is also a king/speaker maker after all and could propose its own "moderate" candidate. Gaetz getting some kind of very selfish political gain.

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Update your time frame.

Biden didn't intentionally keep documents (Trump did) and when requested he returned them (Trump didnt) and Trump lied on sworn statements to the government that he had returned all the documents despite knowing he didn't.

Both were treated with kid gloves until Trump actively obstructed.

This is such an obvious open and shut case that anybody defending trump can be immediately written off as a hack with zero further evidence needed


I don't dispute that Biden and Trump handled the request to return their respective documents differently. What I dispute is this notion that Biden didn't commit a crime, just because he returned the classified documents which were in his possession without legal basis.



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I don't dispute that Biden and Trump handled the request to return their respective documents differently. What I dispute is this notion that Biden didn't commit a crime just because he returned the documents.


Biden did technically commit a crime. But the fbi has never enforced it as long as the documents are returned when identified.
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Quote (Landmine @ 3 Oct 2023 23:18)
Yes, in the access of Hunter Biden’s hands who was receiving diamonds from China. Great hands.


Hunter Biden has nothing to do here, or maybe you want to add whole trump family...
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