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Sep 6 2023 05:01pm
Quote (YeeHaw @ Sep 6 2023 04:36pm)
Can we discuss what the hell rosemont seneca dot com is? Using that domain for an email seems more damning than anything.


That's the law firm where hunter Biden practiced " law "
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Quote (Sioux @ Sep 6 2023 04:32pm)
Off the bat then, the time-stamp on your email is wrong because Shokin was fired in February.


Heres a good breakdown of a timeline of events broken down by just the news after they obtained the memos from FOIA litigation

https://justthenews.com/government/diplomacy/hold-shokin-firing-installment-3-timeline

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Quote (squ1rr7y @ Sep 6 2023 07:00pm)
Honestly I'd like to see Toronto get nuked too


It would solve alot of Canada's problems almost immediately
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That's the law firm where hunter Biden practiced " law "


There you go

:lol:

https://www.republicworld.com/world-news/us-news/wikipedia-removes-hunter-bidens-financial-firm-rosemont-seneca-partners-entry-articleshow.html
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Heres a good breakdown of a timeline of events broken down by just the news after they obtained the memos from FOIA litigation

https://justthenews.com/government/diplomacy/hold-shokin-firing-installment-3-timeline


Really weird how your timeline skips entirely over this

https://www.rferl.org/amp/ukraine-shokin-prosecutor-resigns/27555979.html

Edit: more contemporaneous reporting before the right wing conspiracy freakout https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ukraine-crisis-politics/ukrainian-prosecutor-quits-over-corruption-as-government-teeters-idUSKCN0VO1II

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March 29, 2016:

Shokin is dismissed from the Prosecutor General’s Office by the Ukrainian Parliament.

I think we're arguing over Symantec's

Tendered resignation on the date you mentioned.
Officially dismissed on the date I mentioned.

I think we're both correct

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March 29, 2016:

Shokin is dismissed from the Prosecutor General’s Office by the Ukrainian Parliament.

I think we're arguing over Symantec's

Tendered resignation on the date you mentioned.
Officially dismissed on the date I mentioned.

I think we're both correct


Either date makes your original point pointless as the email was months after.
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Quote (thesnipa @ Sep 6 2023 01:12pm)
"these dumb idiot leftists, every time they try to take Trump down he just gets stronger" - right wingers.

"GUYS, you have to read this, it exposes ALL THE LIES, we have an email, no wait 3 EMAILS!" - right wingers, too.

we live in a country with a terrible inflation rate, imbalanced budget, crumbling infrastructure, increasingly inaccessible housing market, unfilled jobs, and teetering stock market. all of the ammo politically the right needs to topple Biden. and instead they choose hunter to spotlight.


how can u say this is political ammo vs biden then say its not really his fault lol.

inflation was coming, lets not forget that his predecessor actively pushed for lower rates even while the economy was fine, coupled with tariff wars that really didn't accomplish much except for raise the pricing paid on imported goods, once covid came and the over night rate went as low as it did for the period of time it did, inflation was going to happen. lets not also forget that his predecessor, a republican, with a republican house and senate, increased the national debt by nearly 30% in his first 4 yrs.

Unfettered spending, lower rates, tarriffs, and covid shut-downs of supply chains= recipe for inflation and that impact was felt in 2021, 2022, and now it is coming down in 2023 with the increase in rates and reduction in consumer demand. does this mean biden should get this credit? i mean, based on right-wing mentality, he passed the inflation reduction act and inflation is coming down so shoudn't he be the best president to ever live from a trumper's perspective?

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Quote (Sioux @ Sep 6 2023 06:54pm)
Either date makes your original point pointless as the email was months after.


Sept. 30, 2015:

The Interagency Policy Committee (IPC) - a federal task force advising the White House in Ukraine -/ affirmed that Shokin’s reform effort – including the creation of a new independent inspector general watchdog to police prosecutors’ behavior – was advancing enough to warrant the new loan guarantee. “Ukraine has made sufficient progress on its reform agenda to justify a third guarantee,” the memo, sent out on Oct. 1, 2015, summarized

State department memos show viktor was doing a good job

Nov. 5, 2015:

Vice President Biden calls Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko reiterating that “the U.S. willingness to provide a third $1 billion loan guarantee to Ukraine contingent on continued Ukrainian progress to investigate and prosecute corruption,” showing Biden to be in sync with IPC recommendations and not mentioning Shokin.

So by November Biden dosnt bring up Viktor. No issues yet.

Nov. 22, 2015:

A Ukraine desk officer at the State Department forwards Vice President Biden’s talking points for meetings with Ukrainian Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk and President Petro Poroshenko. A condition to fire Shokin has been added to the requirements for the reform of the SBU (Security Service of Ukraine).

So what happened between Nov 5 and Nov 22? Biden has yet to give a reason for his abrupt change.

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how can u say this is political ammo vs biden then say its not really his fault lol.

inflation was coming, lets not forget that his predecessor actively pushed for lower rates even while the economy was fine, coupled with tariff wars that really didn't accomplish much except for raise the pricing paid on imported goods, once covid came and the over night rate went as low as it did for the period of time it did, inflation was going to happen. lets not also forget that his predecessor, a republican, with a republican house and senate, increased the national debt by nearly 30% in his first 4 yrs.

Unfettered spending, lower rates, tarriffs, and covid shut-downs of supply chains= recipe for inflation and that impact was felt in 2021, 2022, and now it is coming down in 2023 with the increase in rates and reduction in consumer demand. does this mean biden should get this credit? i mean, based on right-wing mentality, he passed the inflation reduction act and inflation is coming down so shoudn't he be the best president to ever live from a trumper's perspective?


2020 the house was controlled by Democrats under Nancy Pelosi and the Senate was split 50/50
America was thriving under trump until covid nonsense. Trumps biggest mistake was listening to the advisors that were still loyal to Obama. Obama was spying on trump during his 2020 campaign, and I'm willing to bet it never stopped even while he was president.

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