safe to say you voted birthing people comrade?

It would be easier to find motivation to respond, yes. There's a tremendous amount of inter-community discourse happening within the queer community, and being "supportive of trans rights" means different things to different people. The community is not monolithic as much as the culture war wishes to paint us all as part of discrete sides.

I haven't voted in the poll, but typically I find myself using different language dependent on the context. When I'm seeking to speak as inclusively as possible, I usually say "People who are pregnant" or something similar.

"Birthing persons" sounds weird, to me.

This post was edited by Handcuffs on Jul 10 2023 01:02pm

no, the only people pretending that this is a big thing that trans people are trying to push on society are the "lol what is a woman" people that have an iq just barely high enough to continue breathing to stay alive, unfortunately



because of those crowds that inflate non issues, alot of hospitals, and just general corporate entities, try to pretend they hold high morale values by pretending to be as accepting as they perceive the world wants them to be to maintain a good image

and they do this on the principle of doing what is normally considered morally good for a super small minority of people who get absolutely fucking railed every day by hate in the media

rational people understand that the small things get blown out of proportion and know that transgender people are not perverted psycho criminals who shouldnt be allowed in public. we are just people, and i know you know this.

you should consider the spaces you seek online when "noticing" "patterns" . every place has a bias (for instance, jsp being basically 95% hard right leaning, with some lesser percentage dissenting)

the more online one becomes politically, if they are not lgbt, the more they will eventually be funneled into the matt walshes and such, because the algorithm demands it. most people that are fully on either side of the fence concerning lgbt issues tend to be easily swayed by this hateful rhetoric (ie TiStuff minded people) and eventually begin to believe that the us against them scenario is true, when its very much non existent. a fallacy. created by hateful fearmongering and in some cases, literal fascist monsters.

my own brother, who has always been against my transition and thinks im making a horrible mistake with my life etc, has opened up to me noticing just how horrible people get about the transphobia, and even he took a step back on being a part of that(though still very non accepting of my transition)


the more the right tries to blow small nothings out of proportion, the more corporate entities get confused and play into those fallacies(in this case i mean the "birthing people" stuff that is not a strong position held by any relevant activist) until it starts to just be reality. bigotry always prevails....

Then it should be very easy to tell these activists to knock it off.

oh so it should be my personal responsibility to denounce them? what a silly suggestion. you clearly should be able to read and figure out my stance on it....

You are responding anyway though, you just aren't addressing any points lol, it is weird how obsessively you and a few others jump to the defense of trans people in all of these threads, yet if you get challenged even slightly by something other than a FOX News talking point you are suddenly above it all and won't dignify anything with a response. It is like clockwork.

No community is monolithic but something makes them a community does it not? If I say conservatives own more guns than liberals, would you get upset that I'm treating them as a monolith? Would I be saying "every conservative definitely owns more guns than any liberal"? Or could you parse out the meaning with common sense?

This post was edited by DizzyBusiness on Jul 10 2023 02:42pm

I'm quite happy to give a response to a challenge, and feel that I did. Maybe I'm not understanding what challenge you posed?

It seemed your challenge was that people who have been supportive of the trans community have been silent about this issue and are now experiencing the long-term backlash of that silence, which is fueled by the media/politicians leaning into it as a wedge issue. Is my understanding correct?

call them .....those other dudes?

ya but its not really about trans