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May 24 2023 09:29pm
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He said he loved Hitler, so I think calling him a Nazi lover is accurate.


Yes that is accurate. They love the Nazis for what they did to the jews.

But in terms of racial supremacy beliefs they are polar opposites. BHI are Black supremacist - so for anyone to call him a white supremacist would be wrong. Hitler lover yes but not a white supremacist.

But they still ally themselves with modern neo-Nazis out of a shared hatred of the Jews.

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May 24 2023 09:38pm
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Yes that is accurate. They love the Nazis for what they did to the jews.

But in terms of racial supremacy beliefs they are polar opposites. BHI are Black supremacist - so for anyone to call him a white supremacist would be wrong. Hitler lover yes but not a white supremacist.

But they still ally themselves with modern neo-Nazis out of a shared hatred of the Jews.


While it might seem that a white supremacist and a black supremacist are polar opposites, they are actually more like orthogonal to each other. They want many of the same things such as racial separation through violent means. For instance, Marcus Garvey, the founder of the Black Separatism movement, worked with the KKK since they had the same goals of racial separation.
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May 24 2023 09:40pm
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While it might seem that a white supremacist and a black supremacist are polar opposites, they are actually more like orthogonal to each other. They want many of the same things such as racial separation through violent means. For instance, Marcus Garvey, the founder of the Black Separatism movement, worked with the KKK since they had the same goals of racial separation.


I agree, its essentially horseshoe theory, both of them meet together with extremely similar interests and goals, even while being on paper opposite (black supremacists are usually far left, while white supremacists are usually far right)
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May 24 2023 09:54pm
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I agree, its essentially horseshoe theory, both of them meet together with extremely similar interests and goals, even while being on paper opposite (black supremacists are usually far left, while white supremacists are usually far right)


Black supremacists are not far left. By definition if you advocate for any kind of racial superiority you are on the right.
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May 24 2023 09:57pm
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Black supremacists are not far left. By definition if you advocate for any kind of racial superiority you are on the right.


define right wing if you believe this to be the case

is it simply due to any type of hierarchical thinking = right wing?

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Black supremacists are not far left. By definition if you advocate for any kind of racial superiority you are on the right.


By that definition maybe but black supremacists are usually Marxist-Leninists.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Guerrilla_Family

The Black Guerillas, a large black supremacist group in the US, are explicitly Marxist-Leninist

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May 24 2023 10:13pm
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define right wing if you believe this to be the case

is it simply due to any type of hierarchical thinking = right wing?


That is the defining feature of left versus right wing. Hierarchies and how society should enforce them.

There's a reason why the most left idea possible is a classless stateless moneyless society. It's the only way to encapsulate perfect equality.

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By that definition maybe but black supremacists are usually Marxist-Leninists.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Guerrilla_Family

The Black Guerillas, a large black supremacist group in the US, are explicitly Marxist-Leninist


Marxist-Leninist is just cucks saying "yes daddy please step on me while you promise you're the vanguard party". Not a real left wing political ideology.

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May 24 2023 10:26pm
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That is the defining feature of left versus right wing. Hierarchies and how society should enforce them.

There's a reason why the most left idea possible is a classless stateless moneyless society. It's the only way to encapsulate perfect equality.



Marxist-Leninist is just cucks saying "yes daddy please step on me while you promise you're the vanguard party". Not a real left wing political ideology.


I mean if the USSR isn't far left then I don't know what is.

They all say that the ideal stateless moneyless society is the utopia and the goal. It's how they try to get there which is the problem.
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May 24 2023 10:31pm
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That is the defining feature of left versus right wing. Hierarchies and how society should enforce them.

There's a reason why the most left idea possible is a classless stateless moneyless society. It's the only way to encapsulate perfect equality.



Marxist-Leninist is just cucks saying "yes daddy please step on me while you promise you're the vanguard party". Not a real left wing political ideology.


far left doesn't exist then since hierarchies are in everything
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May 24 2023 10:34pm
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far left doesn't exist then since hierarchies are in everything


Far-left ideologies exist, but you'd be hard pressed to find where they've ever been implemented. Elites don't like losing power, so even when you get popular support for them they tend to fall short of being implemented. Still, it's an ideal world to strive for, not something that's easily attained.

Far-right ideologies both exist and are implemented often. Monarchies is hierarchy of birthright, theocracy is hierarchy of religious affiliation, fascism is hierarchy of racial and national superiority, etc.
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