Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ May 22 2023 01:07pm)

Sperm and eggs undergo recombination during meiosis and have unique genetic makeup from the parent or its grandparents. So you've still failed a define something that would constitute a new human life.

"new human life" is a semantic question. It depends how you define it. Personally fertilization doesn't seem to be right, because lots of fertilized eggs are unviable and spontaneously abort or never implant to begin with. That's certainly not a "new human life".

Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ May 22 2023 01:09pm)

How are you defining "human life"?

Quote (JessiWan @ May 22 2023 03:13pm)

Easy: an organism that 1. is alive and 2. contains human DNA.

Now answer my question. When does human life begin?

Quote (thesnipa @ May 22 2023 04:13pm)

then your housecat is human 4 nights a week.

Quote (JessiWan @ May 22 2023 03:13pm)

Easy: an organism that 1. is alive and 2. contains human DNA.

Now answer my question. When does human life begin?

Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ May 22 2023 01:07pm)

Sperm and eggs undergo recombination during meiosis and have unique genetic makeup from the parent or its grandparents. So you've still failed a define something that would constitute a new human life.

"new human life" is a semantic question. It depends how you define it. Personally fertilization doesn't seem to be right, because lots of fertilized eggs are unviable and spontaneously abort or never implant to begin with. That's certainly not a "new human life".

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Life is a quality that distinguishes matter that has biological processes, such as signaling and self-sustaining processes, from matter that does not, and is defined by the capacity for growth, reaction to stimuli, metabolism, energy transformation, and reproduction.

Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ May 22 2023 01:19pm)

By that logic I culture literally billions of humans in a flask at work every year. At least if we take the google definition of organism meaning "an individual animal, plant, or single-celled life form."

Both in the form of immortalized cancer cells (they even have uniquely mutated genetic material!) and transfected bacteria.


So unless you think transformed bacteria or cultured cancer cells are human life, I think you need to rethink your definition.

Quote (JessiWan @ May 22 2023 03:23pm)

Cancer cells aren't human life because only organisms can be life. And these are just cells. Transformed bacteria is a special case, it's a dilemma that's introduced due to recent technology. This doesn't mean my definition is bad, it just means it needs to be finetuned to exclude the sort of things you pointed out.

Now my questions to you:

1. How do you define human life?

and,

2. When does human life begin?

Quote (thesnipa @ May 22 2023 01:13pm)

then your housecat is human 4 nights a week.