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Apr 21 2023 08:09pm
Quote (Pyrotechx @ Apr 21 2023 09:50pm)
Where do you get your facts? Back of a cracker jack box?




No you idjeet, the facts are INSIDE the Cracker Jacks box. Everybody knows that... sheesh.

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Electronic voting systems should be opensource in a democracy to promote accountability and provide information to the citizens. Would debase whole cases like this. While electronic voting systems remain closed source proprietary mechanisms, there will be valid concerns for abuse by the few with the keys to the source and those who want to cast doubt on the same system. Especially when said system comes from an external state. Shoddy system design at its core. Reminds me of the "The Cathedral and the Bazaar" essay.

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Quote (RedFromWinter @ Apr 21 2023 09:46pm)
Electronic voting systems should be opensource in a democracy to promote accountability and provide information to the citizens. Would debase whole cases like this. While electronic voting systems remain closed source proprietary mechanisms, there will be valid concerns for abuse by the few with the keys to the source and those who want to cast doubt on the same system. Especially when said system comes from an external state. Shoddy system design at its core. Reminds me of the "The Cathedral and the Bazaar" essay.


Funniest aprt about "oh man the votes are rigged!" is that states (including red states) have access to review this information.

Repubs and dems both have monitored and reviewed voting systems to ensure no foul play.

Imagine saying a red state is rigged when literally the red states have access to the information.

How many lawsuits did Trump lose in 2020? Like 63? They even had access to the voting machines. https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-election-breaches/
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Quote (Ghot @ Apr 21 2023 05:42pm)
Oh now I'm convinced.
Because some hole in the wall supposed fact checker says Sinclair leans right... it's true !!


JFC, dude. You're just being willfully obtuse at this point. Here's the search results for "Sinclair Broadcast Group bias". There's a ton of results (and I even used DuckDuckGo so you can't cry about Google skewing the results).

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=sinclair+broadcast+group+bias&va=i&t=hp&ia=web

Just take the fucking L. You've definitely earned it.

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JFC, dude. You're just being willfully obtuse at this point. Here's the search results for "Sinclair Broadcast Group bias". There's a ton of results (and I even used DuckDuckGo so you can't cry about Google skewing the results).

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=sinclair+broadcast+group+bias&va=i&t=hp&ia=web

Just take the fucking L. You've definitely earned it.


If you could reason with a republican, there wouldn't be any republicans.
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Apr 21 2023 10:14pm
Quote (Pyrotechx @ Apr 21 2023 09:00pm)
If you could reason with a republican, there wouldn't be any republicans.


Yes there would be. They'd just be rich white billionaires and nobody else.
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Yes there would be. They'd just be rich white billionaires and nobody else.


That's actually accurate. I know some wealthy smart repubs that know damn well Republicans are detrimental to the average American, but they vote repub for the tax breaks.
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Apr 22 2023 03:50am
Quote (Surfpunk @ Apr 21 2023 11:53pm)
JFC, dude. You're just being willfully obtuse at this point. Here's the search results for "Sinclair Broadcast Group bias". There's a ton of results (and I even used DuckDuckGo so you can't cry about Google skewing the results).

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=sinclair+broadcast+group+bias&va=i&t=hp&ia=web

Just take the fucking L. You've definitely earned it.





Just about all those articles are 5 years old. And just about all those articles are from horribly left leaning media sources.
There could be two reasons for this...

1. The horribly left leaning media sources are telling the truth. (Yeah right).
2. The horribly left leaning media sources are making it "look" like they are down on Sinclair Broadcast Group, because you don't want people thinking that the left owns SBG as well.

I'll vote for #2, since it's obvious that MSM, colleges (filled with unformed minds), Hollywood and social media have all been bought up by the left.



You act like I wasn't here for the 2016 election and all the lefty BS that came with that... serious problem for the left's leviathan of total BS.
From mid 2016 onward... you couldn't find ANYthing pro-right other than FOX.
It didn't matter how deep you looked... EVERYthing was left oriented.
Hell, even CNN almost went under after they were caught in their left leaning BS.
The same CNN that's one of the articles you linked.
Or Newsweek, another lefty rag.


Let's for a second, assume I'm right and that SBG was turned into a lefty shill somewhere around 2017-2018.
What would be the left's best way to add SBG to their propaganda machine?

1. Come out and say: "Hey we just bought up SBG so now they will give you the unvarnished truth, just like we do".

That won't work, cause by now, even the slowest turnip in the truck knows that the left has control of... MSM, colleges (filled with unformed minds), Hollywood and social media.
So why would the American people believe this any more than anything else they say.

Or...

2. At the time of "acquisition" come out yelling that SBG is right leaning, don't watch them.

Ofc, everyone will watch, just to see if it's true... and thereby get their heads filled with more lefty BS, which is what SBG is actually shoving down people's throats.

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Just about all those articles are 5 years old. And just about all those articles are from horribly left leaning media sources.
There could be two reasons for this...

1. The horribly left leaning media sources are telling the truth. (Yeah right).
2. The horribly left leaning media sources are making it "look" like they are down on Sinclair Broadcast Group, because you don't want people thinking that the left owns SBG as well.

I'll vote for #2, since it's obvious that MSM, colleges (filled with unformed minds), Hollywood and social media have all been bought up by the left.



You act like I wasn't here for the 2016 election and all the lefty BS that came with that... serious problem for the left's leviathan of total BS.
From mid 2016 onward... you couldn't find ANYthing pro-right other than FOX.
It didn't matter how deep you looked... EVERYthing was left oriented.
Hell, even CNN almost went under after they were caught in their left leaning BS.
The same CNN that's one of the articles you linked.
Or Newsweek, another lefty rag.


Let's for a second, assume I'm right and that SBG was turned into a lefty shill somewhere around 2017-2018.
What would be the left's best way to add SBG to their propaganda machine?

1. Come out and say: "Hey we just bought up SBG so now they will give you the unvarnished truth, just like we do".

That won't work, cause by now, even the slowest turnip in the truck knows that the left has control of... MSM, colleges (filled with unformed minds), Hollywood and social media.
So why would the American people believe this any more than anything else they say.

Or...

2. At the time of "acquisition" come out yelling that SBG is right leaning, don't watch them.

Ofc, everyone will watch, just to see if it's true... and thereby get their heads filled with more lefty BS, which is what SBG is actually shoving down people's throats.


Where's your proof of any of this? I'm not taking your word for it. You'll note I didn't use the words "right" or "left" in the search string of that DDG I posted.
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Where's your proof of any of this? I'm not taking your word for it. You'll note I didn't use the words "right" or "left" in the search string of that DDG I posted.




The only proof that doesn't require about 3-4 months of work, is what you've seen with your own eyes.
I've posted a lot of it, over the years, but even gathering all that, is more than I want to do.

If you want a quickie indication... check out Imgur these days... it's leaning so far left I'm surprised it hasn't fallen over.

For thousands of years people have known that whoever controls the information, controls all...
It's nothing new, and the left has been making good use of that wisdom, for the past 10 years or so.

But everything goes in cycles... sooner or later the right will employ similar tactics and things will leaning drastically... right.
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