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Apr 16 2023 05:25am
nikolaz cruz would have been given death
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Apr 16 2023 07:44am
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Great maybe you should start inmates on death row out of your own pocket then. We are talking about most vile incurable mass murderers, rapists, and terrorists etc who have demonstrated beyond shadow of a doubt they are unfit to participate in free society. Prison is a correction Center designed for people to pay for their mistakes and to maybe rehabilitate back into society. Taxpayers are paying out of their pocket to give these people a roof over their head and food for the time in prison.
Life in prison is a very long and costly we talking 10s of millions of dollars per individual. A simple bullet costs $0.20. That could mean an hour of someone's work per week just to pay lawyer fees for a pedo scumbag.

Always amazes me how leftoids never consider costs to any decisions? They must feel like uncle Sam just reaches into his magic bag and pulls out billions of dollars every time with no consequences.


Pretty much every first world country doesnt have the death penalty.

Of course you are trying to defend a third world country and wouldnt know any better due to your ignorance
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Apr 16 2023 09:42am
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but not so much curiosity when terrorist organizations from the DNC take to the streets Burning Looting and Murdering, BLM/antifa/lgbtqstds


Oh, rest assured that your post definitely reminds me that my curiosity about mental well-being is vast.
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Apr 16 2023 09:45am
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Oh, rest assured that your post definitely reminds me that my curiosity about mental well-being is vast.


i wasnt among the 'sane, screaming in the streets Burning Looting and Murdering.......
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Apr 16 2023 09:56am
Quote (addone @ Apr 15 2023 11:08pm)
Always amazes me how leftoids never consider costs to any decisions? They must feel like uncle Sam just reaches into his magic bag and pulls out billions of dollars every time with no consequences.


Quote (Plaguefear @ Apr 16 2023 02:23am)
If you has even a tiny bit of education on the subject you would know sitting on death row costs far more than life in prison.


>"Doesn't consider costs".
>"Death penalty costs more than life imprisonment".
>"Doesn't change anything I said".

wat
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Apr 16 2023 01:14pm
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Thanks captain obvious.

Doesn't change anything I've said. Sure death penalty costs more but it's still in the millions of dollars. The problem is the scumbag lawyers stall the fuck out of these trials to charge extortionate amounts p/h fees, there are far more appeals and even when that is all said and done the unanimoty vote usually fails because there is one soy virtue signalling. Florida/Desantis just wants to streamline the process to be more efficient and less costly hence the bill.

What you are arguing is removing the capital punishment entirely.


"I was wrong, but it doesn't change anything"

You hear yourself, right?
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Apr 16 2023 01:45pm
Good answers for people against the death penalty

I also do not believe in the death penalty, in fact the death penalty is completely forbidden by the Catholic church as well

The death penalty is wasteful, period.

It is MUCH better for society, as well as a greater punishment to the criminal, to sentence them to life in a work camp where refusal to work is forbidden. If they die from exhaustion, then pro-death penalty people are happy. Either way they generate revenue for the state.

This post was edited by El1te on Apr 16 2023 01:46pm
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Fuck outta here with this straw man


should be really easy to answer for you, considering its a straw man
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Apr 16 2023 03:49pm
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Pretty much every first world country doesnt have the death penalty.

Of course you are trying to defend a third world country and wouldnt know any better due to your ignorance


I got a better solution. Defendants on death row pay out of their own pocket to defend themselves, set up a go fund me campaign if they think they are innocent. There no more burden on the tax payer and those that really sympathise can pay.
Once the guilty realise it won't be that easy to defend themselves and no ability to abuse the law then it will be much cheaper and faster.

Because at the moment we are forced to pay for people who deserve the needle to extend and exploit the legal system.
Death penalty isn't the issue like so many leftoids screaming about. Its the fact that it costs more money to come to the same verdict. That's the real crime.
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"I was wrong, but it doesn't change anything"

You hear yourself, right?


Quote (Handcuffs @ Apr 17 2023 03:56am)
>"Doesn't consider costs".
>"Death penalty costs more than life imprisonment".
>"Doesn't change anything I said".

wat


You are skipping around the reason why death penalty exists in the first place. It's the highest form of punishment. Remove the death penalty and criminals are less afraid. Just look at all the blm looters who grab billions worth of products and property damage while bystanders just watch and take pictures. Have we not seen crime go up exponentially in cities with the Defund the police campaigns the woke tried to instill?

My argument still holds because having tougher laws insures less crimes committed and therefore less costs to the taxpayer. Would you rather pay $10million in tax for one case or $100million for 100 cases @ $1m each?
Leftoids are sitting on the decision panels and purposefully siderailling the process to incur more taxpayers money. Oh look we just spend a lot of money to prove that the defendant is guilty beyond shadow of a doubt. Let's instead of voting to put them to sleep and end this case let's instead give them life and further spend additional millions to keep them locked up. Then we can brag about how death penalty statistics cost more money by being directly responsible for those very costs.

This bill will reduce the costs dramatically while preserving tougher laws.

BTW I too would like to see this law be made redundant but there is a lot of crime in US that need tougher laws so while crude and maybe barbaric it is necessary for the forseable future.
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Apr 16 2023 04:08pm
Quote (addone @ 16 Apr 2023 23:49)
You are skipping around the reason why death penalty exists in the first place. It's the highest form of punishment. Remove the death penalty and criminals are less afraid.


You can also ask yourself: why it no longer exists in advanced countries ? (and for the few remaining advanced it is extremely rare, like Japan)
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