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Mar 27 2023 05:22pm
Quote (blahaj @ Mar 27 2023 05:59pm)
alright then, ill bite since it seems like 4chan and right wing media outlets are trying to hard dox this kid as fast as they can about it

1 school shooting done by a transgender person, who cares what their gender identity was it isnt relevant

what do you want done about this situation, in your own words. where do you think the main issue was, in your own words


Wasnt it 2 this week alone. I thought we were up to 3 or 4 total, and 2 for premeditated columbine style terror attacks
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Mar 27 2023 05:23pm
Quote (blahaj @ Mar 27 2023 04:20pm)
again i state, even if this was a hate crime and the evidence shows it undeniably, what should we do about this?


what we should do about it is a very difficult question.

I'm not in favour of censorship of "hate speech" because it always leads to persecution (where "hate speech" becomes "speech that you hate")

To be honest a little bit more gun control is a decent solution in cases like this, assuming that the murderer legally acquired their weapons (most likely)

I'm Canadian and our system is not too bad where you have to pass a background check & go through a licensing and training process, evaluation of prior offences etc

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Mar 27 2023 05:25pm
Quote (Handcuffs @ Mar 27 2023 04:21pm)
While no reason could ever justify this--the possibility that it is such retaliation makes my heart ache just that much more.


considering that you have trans people openly calling these laws "Genocide" and "the same as Adolf Hitler", I think its sadly a strong possibility
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Mar 27 2023 05:26pm
Literally me right now:
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Mar 27 2023 05:26pm
Quote (El1te @ Mar 27 2023 04:25pm)
considering that you have trans people openly calling these laws "Genocide" and "the same as Adolf Hitler", I think its sadly a strong possibility


I do think that the bills are abhorrent, as they specifically (but cleverly) attack transgender people. Still, such behavior is abhorrent too.
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Mar 27 2023 05:27pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Mar 27 2023 04:22pm)
Wasnt it 2 this week alone. I thought we were up to 3 or 4 total, and 2 for premeditated columbine style terror attacks


there was that mass shooting in a bar committed by a transgender person not too long ago, not a school shooting though
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Mar 27 2023 05:33pm
Quote (Meanwhile @ Mar 27 2023 05:49pm)
If you say so, must be true. I means we have plenty of example available in EU, oh wait.


If you weren't so deep in the propaganda, you would know that most mass shootings are carried out with pistols, of which this shooter also used.

Quote (El1te @ Mar 27 2023 05:50pm)
hate crime of the 1st degree, much like the mass shooting at Tops in Buffalo


No such thing as a hate crime in my book.

Quote (fender @ Mar 27 2023 06:11pm)
takes a special kind of person trying to exploit this for their personal gun agenda - based on nothing but speculation. especially considering how so many mass shooting were committed with ar-15s, and every common sense evaluation suggests they would have been significantly less lethal had assault weapon bans been in place...


Nothing has changed. You can rest assured knowing that I was not fucking talking to you.
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Mar 27 2023 05:41pm
Quote (Sakuraba @ Mar 27 2023 06:26pm)
Literally me right now:
https://i.imgur.com/b5W82wi.png


ya u got a trans person in your guild you love them
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Mar 27 2023 05:42pm
Quote (El1te @ Mar 27 2023 06:27pm)
there was that mass shooting in a bar committed by a transgender person not too long ago, not a school shooting though


there was the one where a straight gunman killed his trans sister, apparently by accident, while committing that mass shooting targeting a bar. Same day as another more high profile mass shooting. Was always one of the odder stories, since it was never truly identified what the motive was, and the gunman may have had no idea he was killing his own sister-turned-brother because he didn't know about the transition and it was a poorly lit hallway. Another downside of being trans. But at least debt collectors have a harder time finding you

Club Q mass shooter was trans (not a school), the STEM school shooter in colorado was FtM trans and targeting straight kids, that one was a school shooting (and I think they bias the statistics by counting that as a male shooter). Wasn't the denver shooter a few days ago also trans, or did I get that wrong? A few other non-school ones like "Snochia Moseley". But I think it has to be stressed just how rare the columbine knockoff school shootings are throughout american history. Every few years on average, when the media wants you to think its every few days

but the actual commonplace one is random kids being killed in gang violence. There was a documentary for showtime about high school football in north minneapolis that profiled multiple players this year, and so far one of them (DeShaun Hill Jr) was shot and killed by a random guy who mistook him for a thief who had stolen his cellphone earlier that day, and another (cashmere hamilton-grunau) was shot multiple times in the legs and survived just a few days ago. A car pulls up to him and his friends walking back from school, rolls down the windows and asks them if they were in a gang, they say no, gunmen in the car shoot them up.



Its just a matter of newsworthiness I guess. Media is going to jump on any columbine-style terror attack before they have the facts straight and they'll be hard pressed to memory hole this now that it turns out its a tranny targeting christian kids, with a manifesto and all. But when black people shoot black people?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LLCSySyFQ8
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Mar 27 2023 05:45pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Mar 27 2023 04:42pm)

Its just a matter of newsworthiness I guess. Media is going to jump on any columbine-style terror attack before they have the facts straight and they'll be hard pressed to memory hole this now that it turns out its a tranny targeting christian kids, with a manifesto and all. But when black people shoot black people?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LLCSySyFQ8


Is perhaps the increased space that an incident like this takes up is in-part because it is an atypical act of violence.?
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