It's possible but evidence currently points towards natural origin. https://zenodo.org/record/7754299#.ZCcXRHZKiUk



https://zenodo.org/record/7754299#.ZCcXRHZKiUk



Yeehaw is mad that he doxxed himself on his old account, freaked out, hit 40% warn, came back on a multi and was immediately outed as wickeddarkjuggalos multi. He gets very very mad that we make fun of him for being that dumb.

is the conclusion simply that animals that could have had SARS-COV2 were at the market? i dont see how that's evidence either way.

wuhan is situated where it is because of close proximity to animals that can contain sars viruses, it makes transporting and collecting samples far easier. that's a known reality.

they also study how to take samples of those viruses, test whether they can jump to humans, and then if not play with them to see if they can get them communicable. that's the goal of the lab afaik, to take samples of sars viruses to study markers to predict which ones can jump, and if not do gain of function until they can, again to trace markers to predict this stuff.

my issue isn't ideological to "prove" where it came from, its just laughing at the years i was told it's literally not possible it came from a lab. and being shut up for even suggesting it was possible. those same people said no way they were doing gain of function, and any samples there must purely be collected from wild life. which seems put into the dust these days.

The samples were taken very very early in the Wuhan outbreak. Seeing colocalization of the original Covid19 strain in high abundance with animal DNA at significantly higher rates than covid19-human DNA colocalization makes it much more likely it came from the animals in the market to humans, not humans gave it to animals in the market. It certainly isn't a slam dunk, but the bulk of the current evidence between localization of COVID RNA and animals in the market, as well as the clustering of early cases around the market would suggest that was its origin.

Is it possible an infected person from Wuhan institute went and french kissed a raccoon dog and only a raccoon dog before dropping dead? Sure. Is it likely that it would only affect one market and no where else in the vicinity of the WIV? Prob not.

Thats 3rd diff acc im accused of being multi of. Sick
Keep it up

literally wasn't talking about you, try to pay attention.

covid is airborn from 6+ feet, and the markets are im sure live markets due to a lack of refrigeration. i dont think french kissing would be required, but hey maybe the racoon dogs were wearing a cloth mask from Etsy.

That wouldn't explain the market being the only cluster in the city at that point in time then. Did the person teleport there and back and have zero other contacts?

Even the most likely lab theory, that it was a sample harvested from a natural source and released after some years of storage on accident, is massively less likely than just skipping the lab part and coming directly from animals to humans.

It's just the nature of these things. Literally all pandemics originate in animals. When you start throwing in extra assumptions you always reduce the odds of it happening. So unless we have a smoking gun it will always be less likely to include the lab as the intermediary step.

This is actually a common error in human reasoning. If you say "Jan likes books about philosophy and classical literature. Is it more likely Jan is a librarian, or Jan is a feminist who works as a librarian?" People will often say the latter because it matches their idea of a feminist librarian. But the former encompasses all of the latter, so by definition the latter can't be more likely.

If you think it came from a natural source and leaked from a lab doing experiments on them, then that might happen but it's much more likely that it just came from an animal without that step. If you add in a bunch of steps about taking naturally occuring viruses and intentionally mutating them and then that leaks, you've added a shit load of extra steps that make it laughably unlikely unless you have a smoking gun, which we do not.

This post was edited by NetflixAdaptationWidow on Mar 31 2023 03:17pm

Even if you're talking to me about some other jspers, I've never heard of the ones you mentioned there. Keep coming back

It’s okay I have been three different alternate accounts since I have come to this website. I had a quick stupid laugh with the account mentioned last year. He said for me to say something horrible about the Netflix guy lol.


That user brings this up every time he can’t even bring himself to weasel into an argument.