bold of you to assume the vegan agenda won't wipe out all beef consumption nationwide by then.

Supply would get wiped out while consumption will be forced down when a lb of ground beef is $20. At the rate we're going meat and other food items will become a luxury, maybe enjoy it few times a week pleasure.

good, people should eat more beans. seriously tho i'd be happier if more people gave up cheap meat, and ate meat at half the rate and double the quality. chicken is the only meat we buy from the store because i havent done a batch of broilers for a few years. we're far healthier for it, and i can brown 2 lbs of beef without even draining off any fat. you get maybe a tablespoon's worth and i'd rather just leave it with my wife needing the most fat she can get due a thyroid issue. if it weren't for that i'd prob already do vegetarian dinners a few times a week.

People should eat healthier and many do once they get educated on nutrition or start to get fat, whatever. But what will happen is that choice is going to get taken from people, with government deciding your diet when it comes to meat consumption I think. I don't think it happens through some authoritarian order the way you would see in dictatorships but it will happen in a much more subtle way. First meat production will be constrained or not be allowed to grow with demand due to environmental reasons or whatever, then prices will follow up. You say that because you come from a position of plenty, the abundance of cheap meat here has resulted in meat being being widely available for consumption even to the poor, on a very regular basis. In the future though, we'll price the poor out of it while the poor will continue to eat other processed foods that are as equally bad, but at least we'll feel good about ourselves for doing something for the environment (by pricing the poor out).

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Mar 14 2023 11:59am

not the vegan agenda, the issue that we can't raise cattle if all the grass dies because we were watering it with brawndo

ive always found it funny how poor whites seems to have a really hard time with protein in diets compared to blacks and Hispanics. blacks turn offcuts of meat into delicious meals, Hispanics weave beans into just about everything to offset meat costs. all poor whites know how to do is brown off cheap pink slime hamburger for a gross casserole. there are a lot of creative ways to get protein into your diet with lower cost but decent meat or meat alternatives. i generally read these people against it as just whiny and unwilling to change. boneless skinless breasts and hamburger should make up maybe 10% of your meat consumption, and there's plenty of households where that's 99%.

Didn't really think about it from the race perspective. So googled and found this:



https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9884589/#:~:text=on%20meat%20consumption.-,RESULTS,meat%20(P%20%3C%200.001).

So realistically Blacks who skew poorer would be most impacted.

yes and no, culturally asian, black, and hispanic cooking makes use of lower demand cuts of meat, just look at who's buying/eating chicken feet, beef tongue, etc.

so as the squeeze on factory farming increases we'll see prices on hamburger, pork chops, boneless chicken breasts, etc will go higher faster.

these minorities are culturally used to seasoning offcuts to be palatable, the memes about whites not seasoning food aren't a myth on a macro scale.

and on a wide lens as people are priced out of the meat they want demand for chicken thighs, pork roasts, beef roasts, etc will cause a price increase. but watching how it played out in covid burger/breast shortages had sky high prices on those.

If I understand correctly:
USA gov told/ordered banks to buy government bonds, because they were supposed to be safe.
But somewhere in 2021-2022 USA gov decided that these bonds are worth half of their previous value, and banks had to write losses on them.
Once a bank makes too much losses, it is shut down.
So it makes sense for gov to help the banks stay alive, because it was gov actions that actually put banks into trouble in the first place.

Interest rates went up. Long term bonds purchased at lower interest rates are worth less because of this. Essentially worth nothing.