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#39921
Aug 27 2020 04:58pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ Aug 27 2020 03:57pm)
Democrat reps are falsely claiming he is a white supremacist terrorist.

I posted a funny meme with a famous quote on it.

But somehow i'm the one slandering him. OK.


the number of times your average news report mentions that he is white is sickening
-and yes often add commentary about white supremacy and how it's all linked

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Aug 27 2020 05:03pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ Aug 27 2020 06:54pm)
You should be embarrassed. You gave up your manhood and support leftists.

There is nothing crazy about what I posted.


Not that you'll care, but I'm blocking your posts. I won't engage with someone who glorifies deadly violence.
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#39923
Aug 27 2020 05:04pm
Quote (thundercock @ Aug 27 2020 06:58pm)
He never said that so it is indeed disinformation. I've seen that meme on a lot of left wing sites trying to push the narrative that he's not remorseful to paint him as a murderer. This is a kid man, have some decency.


Its a supportive meme with a famous quote for humorous effect.

bUt hE DidNt sAy tHaT

The idea that I don't have decency or that i'm slandering him here is wildly unintelligent and wrong.
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Aug 27 2020 05:05pm
Quote (IceMage @ Aug 27 2020 07:03pm)
Not that you'll care, but I'm blocking your posts. I won't engage with someone who glorifies deadly violence.


Good riddance, coward.

You support mass murder and genocide, but are offended by memes.

Blood-soaked neocon supporter accusing a non-aggression advocate of glorifying violence because of a meme

thats rich

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Aug 27 2020 05:13pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ Aug 27 2020 04:04pm)
Its a supportive meme with a famous quote for humorous effect.

bUt hE DidNt sAy tHaT

The idea that I don't have decency or that i'm slandering him here is wildly unintelligent and wrong.


This child may be charged with first degree murder and there's no guarantee that a self-defense claim will hold up in court. This is very serious. Even if that defense works, the DA may go after him for a gun charge. Then it's possible that Illinois goes after him and his family. The kid's life is ruined because he was impressionable and made some really poor decisions. I mean, there is a very real possibility that his first sexual experience will be with a man through rape.

Like I said, leftists are pushing this meme to "prove" that he is a white supremacist and a vicious killer. But it's clear that you didn't know that so I'll take back my "slander" claim. You have to knowingly harm his reputation for that to be the case and it's clear that you just didn't know.
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Aug 27 2020 05:18pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ 27 Aug 2020 19:05)
Good riddance, coward.

You support mass murder and genocide, but are offended by memes.

Blood-soaked neocon supporter accusing a non-aggression advocate of glorifying violence because of a meme

thats rich

while i may disagree with the meme you posted (which is fine, agree to disagree), the fact that icepeon the war-loving warmonger-worshipping abortion-loving coward is accusing anyone else of glorifying violence is peak irony
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Aug 27 2020 05:31pm
Quote (thundercock @ Aug 27 2020 07:13pm)
This child may be charged with first degree murder and there's no guarantee that a self-defense claim will hold up in court. This is very serious. Even if that defense works, the DA may go after him for a gun charge. Then it's possible that Illinois goes after him and his family. The kid's life is ruined because he was impressionable and made some really poor decisions. I mean, there is a very real possibility that his first sexual experience will be with a man through rape.

Like I said, leftists are pushing this meme to "prove" that he is a white supremacist and a vicious killer. But it's clear that you didn't know that so I'll take back my "slander" claim. You have to knowingly harm his reputation for that to be the case and it's clear that you just didn't know.


Yes hes in trouble due to defending himself against violent communists and criminals.
Whether his life is ruined or not is to be determined.
A first degree murder charge should not stick unless there is damning evidence we don't know about.

If other charges stick, such as illegal possession of a firearm, its evident of an immoral and unconstitutional government.

I've seen a total of zero leftists pushing that meme as evidence and any that do are beyond stupid.
Its clearly supportive humor, damning of communists, and its a very famous quote.

Leftists and antifa will smear him regardless of any memes.

I appreciate you retracting the false claim of slander but fundamentally disagree that a joke quote on a meme is ruining his reputation.
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Aug 27 2020 05:31pm
Quote (thundercock @ Aug 27 2020 05:24pm)
It is indeed difficult to quantify. Not everyone will agree on the metrics necessary for quantification. There are multiple bias analyzers out there that will corroborate my claim that Fox is more biased than CNN and you can analyze that at your own leisure. I mentioned the pundits/reporters because that's my personal view as well. As someone who has a lot experience dealing with Fox, I'm just sharing my experience. You also have the aspect that people who get their news from channels like Fox are significantly less informed than others. While that doesn't prove a causal effect, it should definitely raise some suspicion.

I mentioned that I think holistic truth is what every media outlet should strive for in theory. Profit motives will obviously distort that mission and that's not really good for the population IMO. But hey, we're a democracy so why not give the people what they want? This is simply an issue of interest and if people are more interested in circle jerking and hate porn as opposed to the actual truth then that's just who we are as a society. Every outlet, including the most reputable ones, will have their issues. As you said, it's a spectrum and all we can really do is call the shots as we see them.



Sure let’s look at a bias analyzer, the most authoritative one that I’ve seen other sources point to.

https://www.allsides.com/media-bias/media-bias-ratings

Both CNN and Fox are ranked identical on their respective sides. Everyone should click that link and try their hardest and be selective about the sources they expose themselves to. I’ve long been a fan of wsj and Reuters

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Aug 27 2020 05:33pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ Aug 27 2020 06:31pm)
Sure let’s look at a bias analyzer, the most authoritative one that I’ve seen other sources point to.

https://www.allsides.com/media-bias/media-bias-ratings

Both CNN and Fox are ranked identical on their respective sides. Everyone should click that link and try their hardest and be selective about the sources they expose themselves to. I’ve long been a fan of wsj and Reuters


:huh:

That chart doesn't give nearly enough detail to be meaningful. Fox and OAN are in the same category but OAN is way more of a Trump bootlicker than Fox.


Also it's only for online content, which is pretty severely limiting.

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Aug 27 2020 05:34pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ 27 Aug 2020 19:31)
Sure let’s look at a bias analyzer, the most authoritative one that I’ve seen other sources point to.

https://www.allsides.com/media-bias/media-bias-ratings

Both CNN and Fox are ranked identical on their respective sides. Everyone should click that link and try their hardest and be selective about the sources they expose themselves to. I’ve long been a fan of wsj and Reuters

Wsj definitely has a pro-business slant (which ends up somehow translating to pro-right), but that said it's pretty solid reporting. Reuters is good. BBC is good although recently they've moved a little left but nothing horrid. i used to read the economist starting as a teenager but i cant stand their self-righteous bullshit now which has nothing to do with economics or math.

i've always lamented that the group of most unbiased sources of media we have in this country is the fucking wall street journal and then british media but that's the way it is

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