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Quote (Thor123422 @ Aug 27 2020 05:30pm)
This was the specific part of his post I was responding to.

If people are prioritizing the riots and looting over how a pandemic is handled when casting their vote that is itself a low information / stupid thing to do.


Calling voters stupid and providing no solution is a great way to win.
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Another funny thing about the supposed anti-Trump media bias is that the few rare instances where Trump for a day appeared to be taking the job seriously, or when he gave a good speech, news networks bent over backwards to acknowledge it. Recall Van Jones saying "this was the moment Trump became president" after he said some nice words at the State of the Union to the widow of a fallen soldier. Or the (single) COVID news conference where Trump appeared as a serious person who understood the gravity of the situation.

Part of the problem is that the last 2 Republican presidents have been awful. My guess is a competent, charismatic Republican president who wasn't obsessed with media criticism and white grievances would receive decent coverage. Shame it's not possible for a candidate like that to make it through a Republican primary.
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Quote (EndlessSky @ Aug 27 2020 04:33pm)
Calling voters stupid and providing no solution is a great way to win.


then why is that 90% of your posts?
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Another funny thing about the supposed anti-Trump media bias is that the few rare instances where Trump for a day appeared to be taking the job seriously, or when he gave a good speech, news networks bent over backwards to acknowledge it. Recall Van Jones saying "this was the moment Trump became president" after he said some nice words at the State of the Union to the widow of a fallen soldier. Or the (single) COVID news conference where Trump appeared as a serious person who understood the gravity of the situation.

Part of the problem is that the last 2 Republican presidents have been awful. My guess is a competent, charismatic Republican president who wasn't obsessed with media criticism and white grievances would receive decent coverage. Shame it's not possible for a candidate like that to make it through a Republican primary.


You're describing Bush.

And under Bush MSNBC bent over backwards to justify the wars.
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Another funny thing about the supposed anti-Trump media bias is that the few rare instances where Trump for a day appeared to be taking the job seriously, or when he gave a good speech, news networks bent over backwards to acknowledge it. Recall Van Jones saying "this was the moment Trump became president" after he said some nice words at the State of the Union to the widow of a fallen soldier. Or the (single) COVID news conference where Trump appeared as a serious person who understood the gravity of the situation.

Part of the problem is that the last 2 Republican presidents have been awful. My guess is a competent, charismatic Republican president who wasn't obsessed with media criticism and white grievances would receive decent coverage. Shame it's not possible for a candidate like that to make it through a Republican primary.


The media is well-aware of the accusations against them, of having an anti-Trump bias. Of course they seize any opportunity to counter these accusations. We simply dont know if the positive coverage would be sustained long-term for a more serious and docile Trump who keeps pursuing the same policies. Sure, the mainstream media would give decent coverage to a Republican president who's socially/culturally liberal and globalist, but that would be beside the point.

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The media is well-aware of the accusations against them, of having an anti-Trump bias. Of course they seize any opportunity to counter these accusations. We simply dont know if the positive coverage would be sustained long-term for a more serious and docile Trump who keeps pursuing the same policies. Sure, the mainstream media would give decent coverage to a Republican president who's socially/culturally liberal and globalist, but that would be beside the point.


no they would have hammered a President McCain or Romney
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no they would have hammered a President McCain or Romney


McCain and Romney were both still very conservative on a lot of issues. If someone like Biden or Hillary ran as a Republican, that would be the mainstream media's thing.

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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Aug 27 2020 05:59pm)
The media is well-aware of the accusations against them, of having an anti-Trump bias. Of course they seize any opportunity to counter these accusations. We simply dont know if the positive coverage would be sustained long-term for a more serious and docile Trump who keeps pursuing the same policies. Sure, the mainstream media would give decent coverage to a Republican president who's socially/culturally liberal and globalist, but that would be beside the point.


Of course the bold isn't what I argued at all. You really can't get over the belief that everybody's criticizing him because he likes tariffs and prefers to avoid military conflict. It's simply not true. A president with those beliefs, if he had the characteristics I listed, would get decent media coverage. That doesn't mean the media won't be biased in favor of the left on certain issues like abortion, gay marriage, and gun rights. But the coverage would look much different in general.

Honestly I think the belief that the media would be horribly unfair to basically any Republican is a way for voters to avoid the responsibility of the choices they have made. It's not easy to admit you keep electing bad presidents.

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Of course the bold isn't what I argued at all. You really can't get over the belief that everybody's criticizing him because he likes tariffs and prefers to avoid military conflict. It's simply not true. A president with those beliefs, if he had the characteristics I listed, would get decent media coverage. That doesn't mean the media won't be biased in favor of the left on certain issues like abortion, gay marriage, and gun rights. But the coverage would look much different in general.


I dont think so. But that's all speculation anyway, no point in further arguing about hypotheticals.
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