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Jan 11 2023 07:02pm
Quote (gnarjay @ Jan 11 2023 04:45pm)
but they are against social safety nets like free healthcare/ social security, increasing minimum wage, anti-union and so on. so who gives a fuck if they donate more to charities? I dont, especially since most of the conservative "charitable donations" go straight to churches


They aren't free, you hire the government to stick a gun in someone else's face to conduct your charity for you.
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Jan 11 2023 07:04pm
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Trump's secret document problem is nothing like Biden's.
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Jan 11 2023 07:33pm
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They aren't free, you hire the government to stick a gun in someone else's face to conduct your charity for you.


spare me the hyperbole. the MAGAts are perfectly fine with having the "government's gun" ( :rolleyes: ) in their face to conduct charity to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars in order to drone middle eastern children for no reason, what's so wrong with taking care of our own?

in before "herrr derrr bootstraps" libertarian retardation
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Jan 11 2023 07:40pm
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spare me the hyperbole. the MAGAts are perfectly fine with having the "government's gun" ( :rolleyes: ) in their face to conduct charity to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars in order to drone middle eastern children for no reason, what's so wrong with taking care of our own?

in before "herrr derrr bootstraps" libertarian retardation


You can't be inb4 the libertarianism because I already bring it. I don't condone taxing ourselves to bomb poor brown people in far off lands either.
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You can't be inb4 the libertarianism because I already bring it. I don't condone taxing ourselves to bomb poor brown people in far off lands either.


so whats your libertarian take on healthcare? everyone for themselves? "let the market decide" if people can afford it or not? if youre poor and sick, just work harder till you can afford it?
what about the VA (if youre a veteran), should vets just deal with their own problems when they risk their lives for our military?
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Jan 12 2023 04:42am
Quote (gnarjay @ Jan 11 2023 09:04pm)
so whats your libertarian take on healthcare? everyone for themselves? "let the market decide" if people can afford it or not? if youre poor and sick, just work harder till you can afford it?
what about the VA (if youre a veteran), should vets just deal with their own problems when they risk their lives for our military?


Pay for it out of pocket. It's amazing how cheap healthcare used to be before the government and insurance companies got involved in it.

What's your statist take on taxation? How much is too much?
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Jan 12 2023 07:05am
Quote (Duckling @ Jan 11 2023 03:32pm)
" but it's still ultimately the choice of the woman "

no, it's not, you femboy


it's still her choice, god doesnt make choices, god condemns or supports them.

did u really not know what a choice was?
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Jan 12 2023 08:26am
Quote (gnarjay @ Jan 11 2023 05:00pm)
you dont think Im pissed off about that? I swear, you MAGAts are incapable of nuanced thinking. Biden is more center than he is left, Im just as critical of him as I am anyone else


thor?

This post was edited by sirthom on Jan 12 2023 08:27am
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Jan 12 2023 09:29am
Quote (gnarjay @ 11 Jan 2023 14:32)
I dont follow. Trump did more damage to this country's democracy in one term than any president in my lifetime. how can you point the finger at the democrats without recognizing your own party's shortcomings?




The United States of America is not a democracy. It is a republic with unalienable rights that can not be voted away by the majority.
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https://i.imgur.com/7ZPDLZr.png

The United States of America is not a democracy. It is a republic with unalienable rights that can not be voted away by the majority.


the terms democracy and republic aren't mutually exclusive, lol. republic is a form of organising government, democracy a possible source of power.

guess what, the vast majority of so called "democracies" are, in fact, not DIRECT democracies, but organised in some form of REPRESENTATIVE democracy - like a presidential or parliamentary REPUBLIC for example. the US most definitely pretend to be a DEMOCRACY (as in the power is derived from "the people") on paper.

in reality, of course, it is an oligarchy, but that's a different discussion.

the "iT's a rEpUbLiC, nOt a dEmOcRaCy" talking point, which unsurprisingly became popular with a majority of republicans who opposed black voting rights, is about as meaningful as saying "lebron isn't an athlete, he's a basketball player".



also, you might wanna check where the "this is extremely dangerous to our democracy" NPC meme originates from, because it's a mockery of right wing propaganda trying to push trump's attack on critical journalism in the most ironically NPC way possible:

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