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Aug 27 2020 01:47pm
Quote (thundercock @ Aug 27 2020 02:43pm)
It's true though. There are people who go through every single report that comes from every news organization and documents this. Obviously what CNN did is fucking stupid and we shouldn't defend that. But to make a false equivalency claim between CNN and Fox is flat out wrong.


I would like to see it, because these things are often hard to quantify.

For a number of reasons I've watched a great deal of CNN, and very little Fox, so I won't try to compare the two. What I would say is that CNN is very selective in what they cover. Violence didn't fit the narrative, so they pretended it didn't exist until the gig was up and it was impossible to ignore. And while I'd agree that historically CNN has had a somewhat better track record on reporting, their bias has become considerably worse since the Trump administration took office.
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Aug 27 2020 01:52pm
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I would like to see it, because these things are often hard to quantify.

For a number of reasons I've watched a great deal of CNN, and very little Fox, so I won't try to compare the two. What I would say is that CNN is very selective in what they cover. Violence didn't fit the narrative, so they pretended it didn't exist until the gig was up and it was impossible to ignore. And while I'd agree that historically CNN has had a somewhat better track record on reporting, their bias has become considerably worse since the Trump administration took office.


It's nearly impossible to quantify.

CNN is biased. The only people that try to deny it are fanboys that are part of the target group that they pander to. I don't think i'v met a conservative here that doesn't acknowledge that Fox is biased and panders to a segment of the population meanwhile people are constantly trying to deny CNN's bias.
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Aug 27 2020 01:57pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ Aug 27 2020 12:52pm)
It's nearly impossible to quantify.

CNN is biased. The only people that try to deny it are fanboys that are part of the target group that they pander to. I don't think i'v met a conservative here that doesn't acknowledge that Fox is biased and panders to a segment of the population meanwhile people are constantly trying to deny CNN's bias.


It's just "enlightened centrists" and "moderates" who try to deny CNN's bias. The left fucking despises CNN.
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Aug 27 2020 01:59pm
Quote (SBD @ 27 Aug 2020 15:09)
I can't sit through a segment of Don and Chris.

As far as fox goes, not sure iv ever seen a single episode. Cnn I think is more popular in Canada than fox. Iv just never seen fox on TV except fox sports for football

there are more liberals that watch faux than conservatives or anyone else that tune into cnn, hence the ratings variance
id wager that most younger pro-Trump folks don't bother with faux news because their bias is so blatant. then again in recent years the takeover of the murdoch kids and paul ryno (D) has made the network a little more prone to criticizing the President (when it's needed and then when it isn't).
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Aug 27 2020 02:02pm
Quote (bogie160 @ Aug 27 2020 12:47pm)
I would like to see it, because these things are often hard to quantify.

For a number of reasons I've watched a great deal of CNN, and very little Fox, so I won't try to compare the two. What I would say is that CNN is very selective in what they cover. Violence didn't fit the narrative, so they pretended it didn't exist until the gig was up and it was impossible to ignore. And while I'd agree that historically CNN has had a somewhat better track record on reporting, their bias has become considerably worse since the Trump administration took office.


Quote (ofthevoid @ Aug 27 2020 12:52pm)
It's nearly impossible to quantify.

CNN is biased. The only people that try to deny it are fanboys that are part of the target group that they pander to. I don't think i'v met a conservative here that doesn't acknowledge that Fox is biased and panders to a segment of the population meanwhile people are constantly trying to deny CNN's bias.


But that's the thing. CNN IS biased. The issue occurs when people say, "well, CNN is biased and so is Fox and so is Breitbart so it really doesn't matter."

bogie, I challenge you to watch/read Fox for a month and get back to me. I grew up on Fox News for years and I can tell you that it's gotten WAY worse compared to what it was.
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Aug 27 2020 02:05pm
Quote (thundercock @ 27 Aug 2020 16:02)
But that's the thing. CNN IS biased. The issue occurs when people say, "well, CNN is biased and so is Fox and so is Breitbart so it really doesn't matter."

bogie, I challenge you to watch/read Fox for a month and get back to me. I grew up on Fox News for years and I can tell you that it's gotten WAY worse compared to what it was.


every network has
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Aug 27 2020 02:13pm
Quote (thundercock @ Aug 27 2020 04:02pm)
But that's the thing. CNN IS biased. The issue occurs when people say, "well, CNN is biased and so is Fox and so is Breitbart so it really doesn't matter."

bogie, I challenge you to watch/read Fox for a month and get back to me. I grew up on Fox News for years and I can tell you that it's gotten WAY worse compared to what it was.



Bias is a spectrum. CNN isn’t comparable to info wars but at this point in history they are very comparable to Fox.

This only happened recently maybe in the last 5-10 years. I agree if your point that Fox has chosen a lane to be biased towards much longer ago.

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Aug 27 2020 02:23pm
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Bias is a spectrum. CNN isn’t comparable to info wars but at this point in history they are very comparable to Fox.

This only happened recently maybe in the last 5-10 years. I agree if your point that Fox has chosen a lane to be biased towards much longer ago.


They really aren't. CNN with full TDS is probably where Fox was a decade ago. Like I said, I grew up on Fox and they've gotten SIGNIFICANTLY worse. There's a reason why they hemorrhaged so much talent over the past few years.
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Quote (bogie160 @ Aug 27 2020 03:47pm)
I would like to see it, because these things are often hard to quantify.

For a number of reasons I've watched a great deal of CNN, and very little Fox, so I won't try to compare the two. What I would say is that CNN is very selective in what they cover. Violence didn't fit the narrative, so they pretended it didn't exist until the gig was up and it was impossible to ignore. And while I'd agree that historically CNN has had a somewhat better track record on reporting, their bias has become considerably worse since the Trump administration took office.


I don't think any news network could survive a Trump presidency without appearing to become more biased. There's simply an endless stream of incompetency, corruption, and bullshit coming out of the White House, so almost any day of coverage can be filled with negative stories. Most crises are just amplified by Trump, which in turn amps up his opponents. Also you have anchors, journalists, and pundits who have followed his behavior all day, every single day. So there's a built up level of knowledge and frustration that seeps through the coverage.

So for people who don't follow the news closely, CNN appears to be pretty damn biased against the president. They are biased against him. But it's mostly because reality is biased against Trump.

If he wins re-election, it won't be because voters affirmed him. It'll be because they didn't pay attention during his presidency.
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