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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Aug 22 2020 03:09am)
In my book, the fact that all the neocon warmongers hate Trump is a point in his favor, but oh well...

She's such a horrible candidate. I still cant wrap my head around why the governor of AZ appointed her to McCain's vacant seat after she had just proven to be a loser.


Thats pretty dumb. They dont hate him because he wants to end wars (which he hasnt done). They hate him because he's insanely corrupt and incompetent.
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Thats pretty dumb. They dont hate him because he wants to end wars (which he hasnt done). They hate him because he's insanely corrupt and incompetent.


That's what you say. We dont really know why the neocons hate him. Is it because he's corrupt and incompetent? Maybe. Certainly a possibility. But it could just as well be because he has "stolen" and transformed their party in a way they dislike. Or it's because he's proven to have no real appetite for new wars. To the public, they of course justify their rejection of Trump with his conduct, since they cant go ahead and say "he's bad because he's not starting new wars".

For instance, the timing of Bolton's exit from the WH aligns conspiciously with Trump resisting against the push to start a war with Iran. Talking about Iran, how's the third world war going that Trump started with his missile strike on general Soleiman? You know, the man who really offered bounties for the heads of American soldiers...
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Aug 22 2020 03:22am)
That's what you say. We dont really know why the neocons hate him. Is it because he's corrupt and incompetent? Maybe. Certainly a possibility. But it could just as well be because he has "stolen" and transformed their party in a way they dislike. Or it's because he's proven to have no real appetite for new wars. To the public, they of course justify their rejection of Trump with his conduct, since they cant go ahead and say "he's bad because he's not starting new wars".

For instance, the timing of Bolton's exit from the WH aligns conspiciously with Trump resisting against the push to start a war with Iran. Talking about Iran, how's the third world war going that Trump started with his missile strike on general Soleiman? You know, the man who really offered bounties for the heads of American soldiers...


Always with some kind of secret hidden intention where it isn't needed. Trump's presidency has been a clusterfuck of incompetence and corruption. Maybe that other stuff is a factor, but it isn't needed. Even if he was out starting all the wars they wanted they likely wouldn't be supporting him. Also, Trump's increased the military's budget with no push back from Democrats. They actually gave him more than he asked for in the most recent budget. So it's not like he gives them nothing lol.

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Always with some kind of secret hidden intention where it isn't needed. Trump's presidency has been a clusterfuck of incompetence and corruption. Maybe that other stuff is a factor, but it isn't needed. Even if he was out starting all the wars they wanted they likely wouldn't be supporting him. Also, Trump's increased the military's budget with no push back from Democrats. They actually gave him more than he asked for in the most recent budget. So it's not like he gives them nothing lol.


On foreign policy, Obama's presidency was also a clusterfuck of incompetence. And let's not even talk about GWB's foreign policy. Also, note the corruption of GWB's administration, which lied to the world so they could start an unnecessary war with catastrophic consquences - a war which miraculously and totally unpredictably happened to enrich themselves and their buddies in the military-industrial complex. And if we go back even further, the corruption of the Clinton's is the stuff of legends. :rolleyes:

Trump might or might not be more incompetent and corrupt than his predecessors - but the gap is definitely smaller than it seems at first glance. Trump is clumsy and brazen and lets the public see more of his shittiness than your usual, career politician president.

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Quote (Black XistenZ @ 22 Aug 2020 10:09)
In my book, the fact that all the neocon warmongers hate Trump is a point in his favor, but oh well...



She's such a horrible candidate. I still cant wrap my head around why the governor of AZ appointed her to McCain's vacant seat after she had just proven to be a loser.


Maybe it was just a gaffe. I think it's more like the crossbreed of a military hawk and a politician rat. She's a #metoo while being opposed to same-sex marriage.

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On foreign policy, Obama's presidency was also a clusterfuck of incompetence. And let's not even talk about GWB's foreign policy. Also, note the corruption of GWB's administration, which lied to the world so they could start an unnecessary war with catastrophic consquences - a war which miraculously and totally unpredictably happened to enrich themselves and their buddies in the military-industrial complex. And if we go back even further, the corruption of the Clinton's is the stuff of legends. :rolleyes:

Trump might or might not be more incompetent and corrupt than his predecessors - but the gap is definitely smaller than it seems at first glance. Trump is clumsy and brazen and lets the public see more of his shittiness than your usual, career politician president.


No lol. Trumps interference in cases to help his friends is a level of corruption that has likely never been seen since before WW2. His refusal to handle Covid because it was hitting blue states is another example of blatant corruption and incompetence. He interferred in the investigations against him and lied in his written responses as found by the Republican lead committee.

I am not using one speck of hyperbole when I say Trump is the most corrupt president that anybody alive has seen, and it isnt even close. That is why everybody has turned against him. That is the only reason they need.

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i'm not talking about the security advisors themselves, i'm referring to the droves of people who repeat anything they hear. John McCain was widely considered by the left to be a dangerous war monger racist until Trump insulted him


The real problem is not political alignments here, it's inconsistency and treason.
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Aug 22 2020 09:20am
and inability to nice with mature women



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and inability to nice with mature women

https://i.imgur.com/NHPOsTb.mp4


the third lady doesn't seem very happy. looking forward to reading her book once this farce is over...
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Cant make this shit up:

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