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Aug 14 2020 09:45am
Quote (theCrossbones @ Aug 14 2020 07:45am)
I understand its less accurate when did facts matter to the team trump? why the focus on accuracy since Harris was appointed.. strange take on birtherism?
you know 80% would just like to call her a N-word and move on.. the bs is exhausting.. LOL


You have a very warped view on conservatives and republicans.

You assume they all align with Trump, you assume majority are racist.

This is not a good look. You're letting extremist voices manipulate your own perception resulting in a generalization of a huge population. Do you walk down the street and assume roughly 50% are racist Trump supporters? No, not unless you live in some extremist area.

I don't understand how so many conversations boil down to haha you racist Trump supporter, now you care about facts!!??

You can have conservative views and think that the current leader is an atrocity leading the party astray setting back progression.

Also, yes some perfectly fit the stereotype. Ghot for instance. He's two memes away from calling Biden's running mate a ni**er whore. He's not racist though by his own account so it will probably be African American ni**er whore.

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Aug 14 2020 09:56am
Quote (Santara @ Aug 14 2020 08:33am)
In white society in America, it's generally less-acceptable to call people blacks (or the blacks), and so to be polite, we've substituted "African-American" in place of black. Less accurate, more polite. Taking someone whose ancestors are genuinely not from Africa and calling them African-American is why it's less accurate.


Jamaica was basically one giant slave plantation wasn't it?

I'd assume most Jamaicans have African background because of this, and wiki says Jamaica is 92% black.

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Jamaica was basically one giant slave plantation wasn't it?

I'd assume most Jamaicans have African background because of this, and wiki says Jamaica is 92% black.


I'm sure that's a fair assumption. But in the same fashion that we don't say Spaniards are streaming across the southern border (we say Mexicans, Guatemalans, Columbians, etc), I don't think we characterize Jamaicans as Africans.
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Aug 14 2020 10:55am
missing from this conversation is the fact that most black people utterly lack national heritage. as they were whitewashed in plantations and barred from sharing culture with their children, and many lacked writing or written history.

a large part of the reason most black people are simply americans is because claiming africa as a heritage has no specificity, its a continent larger than Europe and people dont claim "european heritage", its irish, english, french (yuck), etc.
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Aug 14 2020 11:06am
So I'm not sure the conclusion here. Am I offensive when I say the black guy. For instance there's about 6 black people in town, it's a pretty easy reference when needing to point out a person.

Well Uhh he's medium hight and Uhh has a gray sweater on and Uhh.

Oh he's the black guy.

Am I supposed to be saying African American. Jamaican African, African jemican American.

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Aug 14 2020 11:10am
Quote (Santara @ Aug 14 2020 11:44am)
I'm sure that's a fair assumption. But in the same fashion that we don't say Spaniards are streaming across the southern border (we say Mexicans, Guatemalans, Columbians, etc), I don't think we characterize Jamaicans as Africans.


We call them hispanic, meaning relating to spain, so... yes we do.
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Aug 14 2020 11:11am
Quote (theCrossbones @ 14 Aug 2020 09:45)
I understand its less accurate when did facts matter to the team trump? why the focus on accuracy since Harris was appointed.. strange take on birtherism?
you know 80% would just like to call her a N-word and move on.. the bs is exhausting.. LOL

only people like you jump to using racial slurs
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So I'm not sure the conclusion here. Am I offensive when I say the black guy. For instance there's about 6 black people in town, it's a pretty easy reference when needing to point out a person.

Well Uhh he's medium hight and Uhh has a gray sweater on and Uhh.

Oh he's the black guy.

Am I supposed to be saying African American. Jamaican African, African jemican American.

just leave it be that user ‘duhcrossbones’ thinks Jamaica is part of the United States of America lol
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Aug 14 2020 12:01pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Aug 14 2020 12:10pm)
We call them hispanic, meaning relating to spain, so... yes we do.


While that's a true statement that they're hispanic, we don't say "hispanics streaming across the border" now do we?
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Aug 14 2020 12:03pm
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While that's a true statement that they're hispanic, we don't say "hispanics streaming across the border" now do we?


no, we call them mexicans, even tho they come from Honduras or El Salvidor.
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Aug 14 2020 12:07pm
Quote (Santara @ Aug 14 2020 01:01pm)
While that's a true statement that they're hispanic, we don't say "hispanics streaming across the border" now do we?


Seems to be nitpicking.

If a bunch of black people started streaming across the border to Mexico we'd say Americans are streaming across, and when asked about their race we'd say African-Americans or Black Americans. It doesn't really matter if they went Africa --> Jamaica --> America --> Mexico, we would call them the same as the ones who went Africa --> America.

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