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Aug 2 2020 12:01pm
Quote (bogie160 @ 2 Aug 2020 19:36)
Why do you hate mornings?


It's a well-researched scientific fact that there exist different circadian rythms which are baked deep into our genes. "Early birds" and "night owls" are a real thing, and a large part of it is inherited and not a lifestyle choice.
https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20171114-why-you-shouldnt-try-to-be-a-morning-person

Also, as a massive night owl, I feel compelled to share this little gem:
https://medium.com/@melissachu/why-evening-people-are-smarter-and-more-creative-than-morning-people-according-to-science-159476d89e6f
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Aug 2 2020 02:01pm)
It's a well-researched scientific fact that there exist different circadian rythms which are baked deep into our genes. "Early birds" and "night owls" are a real thing, and a large part of it is inherited and not a lifestyle choice.
https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20171114-why-you-shouldnt-try-to-be-a-morning-person

Also, as a massive night owl, I feel compelled to share this little gem:
https://medium.com/@melissachu/why-evening-people-are-smarter-and-more-creative-than-morning-people-according-to-science-159476d89e6f


Sounds like night owl propaganda

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Quote (duffman316 @ Aug 2 2020 01:10pm)
Sounds like night owl propaganda


mad cuz inferior early bird

night owl master race
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Aug 2 2020 12:49pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Aug 2 2020 02:01pm)
It's a well-researched scientific fact that there exist different circadian rythms which are baked deep into our genes. "Early birds" and "night owls" are a real thing, and a large part of it is inherited and not a lifestyle choice.
https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20171114-why-you-shouldnt-try-to-be-a-morning-person

Also, as a massive night owl, I feel compelled to share this little gem:
https://medium.com/@melissachu/why-evening-people-are-smarter-and-more-creative-than-morning-people-according-to-science-159476d89e6f


For most of us, these aren't so ingrained that they can't be changed. A large part of the early bird vs night owl discussion is centered around outliers. There are people who simply don't function well in the opposite environment, but they're a minority of the total population on the whole. Everyone else in on a spectrum.

I used to think I was a huge night owl, until I made the conscious decision to go to sleep earlier in order to better utilize the early part of the day. It turns out that, after coffee, I function decently in the morning too.
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For most of us, these aren't so ingrained that they can't be changed. A large part of the early bird vs night owl discussion is centered around outliers. There are people who simply don't function well in the opposite environment, but they're a minority of the total population on the whole. Everyone else in on a spectrum.

I used to think I was a huge night owl, until I made the conscious decision to go to sleep earlier in order to better utilize the early part of the day. It turns out that, after coffee, I function decently in the morning too.


All good and well, but what's the point? Why would I want to "better utilize the early part of the day" when I can 'naturally' utilize the late parts of the day very well? This whole logic only makes sense for people who are forced by external circumstances to live contrary to their inner rythm.
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All good and well, but what's the point? Why would I want to "better utilize the early part of the day" when I can 'naturally' utilize the late parts of the day very well? This whole logic only makes sense for people who are forced by external circumstances to live contrary to their inner rythm.


Isn't this true of most people? Most of us are not freelancers.

People relax after work, which makes completing those necessary chores more difficult in the PM. You're not getting your daily exercise after having a beer, and you're probably not sinking in too many hours on a project once you sit down at the computer or flop down on your couch. If you are the minority that can focus and prioritize those things, then more power to you. But I think most people are better served by waking up early and prioritizing what needs to get done before the weariness of a day's work has time to take effect.
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Quote (bogie160 @ 2 Aug 2020 16:54)
Isn't this true of most people? Most of us are not freelancers.

People relax after work, which makes completing those necessary chores more difficult in the PM. You're not getting your daily exercise after having a beer, and you're probably not sinking in too many hours on a project once you sit down at the computer or flop down on your couch. If you are the minority that can focus and prioritize those things, then more power to you. But I think most people are better served by waking up early and prioritizing what needs to get done before the weariness of a day's work has time to take effect.

agree. especially during covid-19 lockdown ive started waking up earlier to knockout odds and ends and exercise. much easier to go for a jog/run when it isnt 100 degrees already too. it’s nice to get ahead of work too when people are just logging in.

problem is i still have my habit of staying up late, but not having a commute has helped immensely.
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Aug 2 2020 04:45pm)
All good and well, but what's the point? Why would I want to "better utilize the early part of the day" when I can 'naturally' utilize the late parts of the day very well? This whole logic only makes sense for people who are forced by external circumstances to live contrary to their inner rythm.


Im curious about which side of the political spectrum people are on vs what time they get up in the morning.
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Aug 2 2020 03:52pm
Quote (duffman316 @ 2 Aug 2020 23:37)
Im curious about which side of the political spectrum people are on vs what time they get up in the morning.


At first glance, I would say conservatives lean toward being morning birds and liberals toward being night owls.

For example, the following study looked at the correlation between chronotype and the "Big Five" personality factors on a large sample which includes more than just college students:
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/2158244017728321

In particular, they find 'conscentiousness' to be related with morningness and 'openness' to be related with eveningness, with a large body of work on the relationship between these personality factors and partisanship showing that high levels of conscentiousness are correlated with being conservative while high levels of openness are correlated with being liberal.

But that's not exact science on my part, just some quick look at association graphs I pieced together in my head from various studies. I might be wrong on that one, dont take my word for it.

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