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Jun 1 2016 04:48pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ Jun 1 2016 04:38pm)
He also started a looming student loan crisis.

The economy succeeded despite his ignorance, not otherwise.


Obama didn't start the student debt crisis...
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Jun 1 2016 05:16pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ 1 Jun 2016 14:48)
Obama didn't start the student debt crisis...


It was always burning since the world was turning.
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Jun 1 2016 05:20pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jun 1 2016 06:48pm)
Obama didn't start the student debt crisis...


He expanded the government loans to take up nearly all of the market.
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Jun 1 2016 05:22pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jun 1 2016 05:48pm)
Obama didn't start the student debt crisis...


He put the taxpayers on the hook for the defaults though.
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Jun 1 2016 06:23pm
Quote (AiNedeSpelCzech @ 1 Jun 2016 18:16)
It was always burning since the world was turning.


Unfortunate but true.
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Jun 1 2016 07:41pm
Quote (ThatAlex @ Jun 1 2016 01:16pm)
I agree. I'm confused how someone could classify Trump University as a scam.

Misleading? Yes. Unethical? Yes.

But ultimately these people and students chose to attend an unaccredited university/college.

Maybe I just don't have all the information on this subject. Was Trump U claiming that it was an accredited college or gave college credit? If so, then I'd be more comfortable labeling it as a scam rather than just misleading or unethical.

Having 'University' in the name from 2004-2010 was certainly misleading, but if you're going to drop 10k-60k on an education, you should probably do some research on that school or program to see what you're getting into.

I mean, just watch this video. People can't tell this is just a bunch of crap?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvaaeHP9xtQ

"At Trump University, we teach success. That's what it's all about. Success. It's going to happen to you." LOL

But maybe I just need more info. What was Trump University claiming to do that it didn't?

I had a family member fall into a similar trap before, spending thousands of dollars on becoming a real-estate guru. Completely worthless. So I feel for these people that fell for this.

So I definitely can see why you could use this as a criticism of Trump's character. Very shifty and misleading and unethical way to make a quick buck. But was it a scam, in the legal sense? I'm not sure. I might just be unfamiliar with this subject, these are just my initial thoughts.


ya idk. doesnt seem like anything more than snake oil. I mean is that shitty for sure. sketchy as all hell. But we live in a world where its legal to sell all sorts of shit for ailments that are not at all FDA approved of fully studied even. If you can scam on sick people legally you should be allowed to scam on dumb rich people.
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Jun 1 2016 07:45pm
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ya idk. doesnt seem like anything more than snake oil. I mean is that shitty for sure. sketchy as all hell. But we live in a world where its legal to sell all sorts of shit for ailments that are not at all FDA approved of fully studied even. If you can scam on sick people legally you should be allowed to scam on dumb rich people.


It's definitely a legit attack on the character of Trump, but I don't think many people will be switching candidates because of Trump university.
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Jun 1 2016 07:49pm
Quote (IceMage @ Jun 1 2016 07:45pm)
It's definitely a legit attack on the character of Trump, but I don't think many people will be switching candidates because of Trump university.


i dont think Trump's core will change no matter what. I also am skeptical the Media is colluding to portray the race as even in order to stop Trump from gaining too much more support. I think he does well in polls because he's in the news constantly and his glass ceiling is rather lower than most assume. He may do historically bad among latino, black, and women voters all in one shot. I feel like it would take a real miracle for someone to do that bad among all of those categories and still have a chance. we'll see how far the polarized 2 party system takes him tho
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Jun 1 2016 07:50pm
Quote (IceMage @ Jun 1 2016 05:45pm)
It's definitely a legit attack on the character of Trump, but I don't think many people will be switching candidates because of Trump university.


much of anyone switching either way at this point?

it's just a bunch of mud slinging from people with made up minds and some extra time to get political

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Jun 1 2016 07:51pm
Quote (Beowulf @ 1 Jun 2016 17:50)
much of anyone switching either way at this point?

it's just a bunch of mud slinging from people with made up minds and some extra time to get political


There's still a shockingly large number of undecideds. I still have no idea how, it amazes me every single cycle, but it's extra baffling in this one.
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