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Jan 28 2021 05:18pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jan 28 2021 05:08pm)
If Biden attempted to do the same thing, the MSM would cover it as a bold, brave and righteous resistance against the racism and bigotry that propelled his challenger to victory over uncle Joe, flavored with a bit of "fiery but mostly peaceful", and of course the use of the word "activist" instead of "rioter" or "insurrectionist".

But seriously: no, I do not think that the GOP would be calling for an impeachment vote against Biden after he has already left office.


This post shows you are severely disconnected from reality
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Jan 28 2021 05:18pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jan 28 2021 03:08pm)
If Biden attempted to do the same thing, the MSM would cover it as a bold, brave and righteous resistance against the racism and bigotry that propelled his challenger to victory over uncle Joe, flavored with a bit of "fiery but mostly peaceful", and of course the use of the word "activist" instead of "rioter" or "insurrectionist".

But seriously: no, I do not think that the GOP would be calling for an impeachment vote against Biden after he has already left office.


Trump was impeached as President though and not a private citizen. The Senate MUST hold a trial but they can dictate the rules and the Judiciary has zero say. Given that he can no longer be REMOVED from office the only possible outcome is to ban him from holding public office again. I agree that impeaching him AFTER the fact would be suspect and we really only have one scenario where that happened.
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Jan 28 2021 05:22pm
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Trump was impeached as President though and not a private citizen. The Senate MUST hold a trial but they can dictate the rules and the Judiciary has zero say. Given that he can no longer be REMOVED from office the only possible outcome is to ban him from holding public office again. I agree that impeaching him AFTER the fact would be suspect and we really only have one scenario where that happened.


Sure, now that the impeachment process has been started, the Senate has to hold the trial, I dont disagree with that. I just disagree with the decision to impeach him with mere days left on his term. Like I said: every day that is spent talking about Trump is, at this point, a waste of time and only serves to divide the country even further.
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Jan 28 2021 05:24pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jan 28 2021 05:22pm)
Sure, now that the impeachment process has been started, the Senate has to hold the trial, I dont disagree with that. I just disagree with the decision to impeach him with mere days left on his term. Like I said: every day that is spent talking about Trump is, at this point, a waste of time and only serves to divide the country even further.


Oh bullshit. Trump was easily the most corrupt president in history and it isn't even close. We will be talking about him for 10 years at least and an impeachment trial is the absolute minimum that should come out of his election lies.
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Jan 28 2021 05:28pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ 29 Jan 2021 00:24)
Oh bullshit. Trump was easily the most corrupt president in history and it isn't even close. We will be talking about him for 10 years at least and an impeachment trial is the absolute minimum that should come out of his election lies.


*sigh*
It should be obvious what I meant. Of course we will keep talking about Trump for years to come in some capacity - but he should no longer be the focal point of American politics, he should no longer be the main storyline that sucks up all the oxygen.

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Jan 28 2021 05:30pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jan 28 2021 05:28pm)
*sigh*
It should be obvious what I meant. Of course we will keep talking about Trump for years to come in some capacity - but he should no longer be the focal point of American politics, he should no longer be the main storyline that sucks up all the oxygen.


And again, his corruption level was so insane that I disagree. I think they should also be working on stimulus but this is not a waste of time. At least they should impeach and attempt to bar from future office.
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Jan 28 2021 05:44pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jan 28 2021 06:30pm)
And again, his corruption level was so insane that I disagree. I think they should also be working on stimulus but this is not a waste of time. At least they should impeach and attempt to bar from future office.


This is no chance that he is barred. Nor was there a chance when this started. It serves no higher purpose, because the act of impeaching him will not sway a single vote, but is likely instead to harden existing lines.

Ergo, it is a colossal waste of time.

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Jan 28 2021 05:53pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jan 28 2021 05:52pm)
Wrong. I dont care if Trump is impeached or not, I'm done with him. What I do care about, however, is that he is held accountable by the right institution and that holding him accountable is not abused by Democrats for political gain. Democrats are staging a show trial against a president who has already left office, who is already discredited and who has not even the slightest chance of ever winning the general election of a presidential race ever again. It's a waste of time and resources, only divides the country even further, and it only serves their own agenda. If you ask me, the country has spent enough time talking and thinking about Trump. The Trump presidency ended with a whimper, but Democrats seemingly want to keep obsessing over him even after they achieved their goal of ousting him.

It's really not hard to see through their strategy, I mean, come on. They want to force the GOP senators to take a toxic vote which divides their caucus and their party. Additionally, they're trying to use the swing in public opinion on Trump to force the GOP lawmakers into succumbing to their semi-totalitarian "join our quest for vengeance or there can be no unity"-logic. Liberals and NeverTrumpers cannot settle for "we fundamentally disagree on Trump, and our side ultimately won the battle over public opinion via Biden's victory" - no, they are still so triggered that they cant let it rest without getting the public "you were right on Trump and we were wrong" from the GOP that they've been craving for 5 years.


So Trump lights the country on fire his last couple months in office, but the Democrats(and a handful of patriotic Republicans) are the bad guys for trying to hold him accountable?

I agree... I'd like to never think about Trump again. So the Senate should do their duty and convict/disqualify him. He'll never be able to run for office again.
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Jan 28 2021 05:55pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jan 28 2021 03:22pm)
Sure, now that the impeachment process has been started, the Senate has to hold the trial, I dont disagree with that. I just disagree with the decision to impeach him with mere days left on his term. Like I said: every day that is spent talking about Trump is, at this point, a waste of time and only serves to divide the country even further.


So you don't think we should hold any President accountable during the lame duck period? If someone gives their two week notice for employment but then calls their boss a faggot 3 days before their last day, what should be done?

The country isn't particularly divided on this issue. Yes, extreme partisans will be upset but extreme partisans can fuck themselves because they are the reason for division.
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/25/majority-supports-trump-impeachment-462264

Quote (bogie160 @ Jan 28 2021 03:44pm)
This is no chance that he is barred. Nor was there a chance when this started. It serves no higher purpose, because the act of impeaching him will not sway a single vote, but is likely instead to harden existing lines.

Ergo, it is a colossal waste of time.


I don't think it's entirely a waste of time because having a vote in the affirmative or not is important. I think it's critical for Republicans to take a stand on this issue so the electorate can hold them accountable. I imagine that the majority of the GOP electorate want to see their leader defended.
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Jan 28 2021 05:57pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jan 28 2021 03:22pm)
Sure, now that the impeachment process has been started, the Senate has to hold the trial, I dont disagree with that. I just disagree with the decision to impeach him with mere days left on his term. Like I said: every day that is spent talking about Trump is, at this point, a waste of time and only serves to divide the country even further.


need to keep him from running again.. or 60 mill Q supporters come back to influence.
until the brainwashing has stopped he needs to stay out.
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