Wallace: ... I'm asking you a question. Will you tell us how much you paid in federal income taxes in 2016 and 2017?
Trump: Millions of dollars.
Wallace: You paid millions of dollars?
Trump: Millions of dollars, yes.
Wallace: So not $750?
Trump: Millions of dollars and you'll get to see it -- and you'll get to see it.

So WP or Trump are lying ?

And yet somehow there's some sort of communication structure leading to thousands of people showing up in the same place with all a common agenda, under the same black and red flag, etc.

Yep just an idea.

That's not just an ideology. There is inherent planning which i would say qualifies something as an organization.

If you think one group is inherently dumber than another based on race, that's basically the textbook definition of white supremacy lol

So if you conduct IQ testing through the most neutral and unbiased means on large scale with double blind studies using repeatable laboratory methods and explore it so definitively and exhaustively that the conclusions are beyond all doubt, and the conclusion is that races have stratified IQ distributions along offset bell curves with some on average dumber than the others based on race- does that make science a form of dark white supremacist wizardy that needs to be purged from our midst?

Come now, The Bell Curve and Mainstream Science on Intelligence were published 26 years ago. We've already had a half dozen threads on PARD about this very subject. The controversy over these well evidenced facts is older and staler than some posters in this thread.

I wouldn't engage him because this is all a distraction based on semantics in a pathetic attempt to create a false equivalence narrative. Goomshill is the kind of person who would say, "separate but equal isn't white supremacy because everyone is equal so how could there be supremacy. Checkmate!" He'd also say, "it's not white supremacy because Asians are also superior to blacks."

I've absolutely shredded you on this every time.

The tests you're describing haven't been done in an unbiased way and reported on the way you think they have. Let me give you an example.

The Bell Curve cites a paper in which they went to a factory in Zimbabwe (I think, it was in Africa) and gave every worker a specialized math test. Then 6 months later, they went back and gave them the same kind of test and noted that the scores improved despite the workers not remembering the contents of the test when questioned, and having not studied any relevant material in the mean time.

The Bell Curve took the first (lower) test, attempted to correlate the test to IQ (which you cannot do), and then took those results as representative of the whole country.

The Bell Curve is pseudo-science. It was not peer reviewed. It relies on garbage methodology. It's been debunked dozens of times and is not accepted in modern psychometrics as any kind of authoritative source.

When you dig into those "unbiased IQ tests" you are referencing, they are not unbiased and a decent amount of time they aren't even IQ tests, they're poor extrapolations from other data.

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That's where the line gets blurry. Local groups can organize under "Antifa", but there is no national organization guiding their actions or making policy proposals.

So in some sense, yes, Antifa is an organization at the local level as groups come together and disband as "Antifa", but they aren't one united movement or group across the world.

The thing to note that Biden has condemned violence multiple times and he did so in the debate as well.

That's an empty line if you're purposefully omitting who's the causer of that violence. Proud boys aren't building CHAZ, tearing down fed buildings, assaulting cops and so on.

Far left is responsible for an overwhelming majority of this bs, just because you could point to a handful of proud boys showing up doesn't take away from the ratio which is so one sided.

When has he called a spade a spade here instead of just giving some generic 'i condemn all violence' PC response?

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Sep 30 2020 12:17pm