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Aug 27 2020 10:05am
Quote (nomadwgk @ Aug 27 2020 12:04pm)
So his plan wast o attack a bunch of armed cops with a knife next to his kids? This is the story they say?


Judging by his actions up until that point, yea, that's just about what I'd expect out of him.
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Aug 27 2020 10:14am
Quote (Goomshill @ Aug 27 2020 10:53am)
https://twitter.com/trbrtc/status/1298841139810893824

Some twitter analysis found who fired the first shot, and it was not the hispanic teen, it appears to have been fired upwards into the air by someone standing about 30-50 feet away on the street just as the teen ran past them, it doesn't look like it was aimed at anyone, although its pretty hard to judge ballistic trajectory based on a muzzle flash in a grainy video. But you can clearly see the muzzle flash from someone synced up exactly as the first gunshot rings out.

So someone shoots a pistol into the air behind the teen, who turns around to see whos shooting as he raises his rifle. And he sees a guy chasing him and about to clobber him, and opens fire.
I think internet detectives have cracked this case

Also, there was a TON of extra gunfire ringing out afterwards, 3 shots fired from unknown source after the teen shot the first guy and was on his phone, 8 shots fired in the distance during the 2nd chase, 8 more shots fired closer just after that


so basically the theory is that Kyle is the Lee Harvey Oswald of this situation.

He's the perfect fall guy. Almost too perfect. Young, uneducated, white, wanna-be-cop who has been seen on video in the front row of a Trump rally. There is almost no one that can consider Kyle to be a member of "their group". Just like Americans saw LHO as an "outsider" because of his time spent in Russia.

The cops want to maintain order, but they know that if they start shooting then it will only stir things up more. So the perfect solution is to have this "outsider" fire the first shot. Someone they can later distance themselves from.

I bet while he's in jail, the cops are buttering him up. They are telling him "you did what we all wanted to do" and "you sent a message that will discourage future rioters". But they will scapegoat him as hard as they can when it all goes public.

This post was edited by Kayeto on Aug 27 2020 10:14am
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Quote (nomadwgk @ 27 Aug 2020 12:04)
So his plan wast o attack a bunch of armed cops with a knife next to his kids? This is the story they say?

after what he did to his girlfriend/mother of his kids which led to the police being called it isn't that far-fetched of a 'story'
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Aug 27 2020 10:15am
If he was reaching for his knife, couldnt the cop have made several steps back to get a distance between himself and Blake, to gain time to assess the situation? If Blake then really comes toward him thrusting his knife, he could still shoot him down.

I'm with Thor on this one: shooting someone in the back is a total pussy move, and the spins that paint it as necessary or "textbook police reaction to a dangerous situation" seem like a huge stretch to me.

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Aug 27 2020 10:17am
Quote (Goomshill @ Aug 27 2020 10:58am)
A man with a knife is an immediate lethal threat to anyone within about a 10 ft radius in any direction save upwards.
Policing isn't about bravado or dangerous heroics. When fighting a knife wielding rapist, they don't throw their gun on the ground and pull out their own knife and challenge him to a duel with a one-liner.


It's unfortunate our country has devolved to the point that not shooting somebody in the back is seen as heroics
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Aug 27 2020 10:21am
Quote (TritonV8 @ Aug 27 2020 10:30am)
This isn't the reason his life was terminated. He was killed because he resisted multiple non-lethal attempts to subdue him and then went to his car for a weapon.


Again... in the same post I said i was unaware of him going into his car for a weapon.

If so, justified.

I was under the impression that no weapon was found.
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Aug 27 2020 10:22am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Aug 27 2020 11:15am)
If he was reaching for his knife, couldnt the cop have made several steps back to get a distance between himself and Blake, to gain time to assess the situation? If Blake then really comes toward him thrusting his knife, he could still shoot him down.

I'm with Thor on this one: shooting someone in the back is a total pussy move, and the spins that paint it as necessary or "textbook police reaction to a dangerous situation" seem like a huge stretch to me.


There were children in that car, he was trying to kidnap them while armed with a deadly weapon, and the police don't know if he's reaching for a gun.
He had already escalated the situation into deadly force before walking to the car, you don't get an indefinite supply of benefit of the doubt, and this is armchair quarterbacking.

Quote (djman72 @ Aug 27 2020 11:21am)
Again... in the same post I said i was unaware of him going into his car for a weapon.

If so, justified.

I was under the impression that no weapon was found.


Could the police have known? Should our retroactive judgment of their split second decision be based on a detail they couldn't have known?

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Aug 27 2020 10:23am
Quote (Goomshill @ Aug 27 2020 11:22am)
There were children in that car, he was trying to kidnap them while armed with a deadly weapon, and the police don't know if he's reaching for a gun.
He had already escalated the situation into deadly force before walking to the car, you don't get an indefinite supply of benefit of the doubt, and this is armchair quarterbacking.


How?
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Aug 27 2020 10:25am
Quote (Thor123422 @ Aug 27 2020 11:23am)
How?


by arming himself with a deadly weapon
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Quote (Thor123422 @ Aug 27 2020 11:23am)
How?


I would assume that he's referring to the potential use of the car to run over bystanders/officers when he speeds away.

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