Quote (simpleforce @ Aug 15 2012 10:50pm)
The new testament is tainted because of men. The Bible contained what Christ said, it directly has to be tainted since its recordings are in the Bible. God has 1 religion, and is merciful enough to constantly give us more chances. Islam is not a completely separate religion, its the same religion that has been passed down from Adam.
While the Koran and Muhammad are very specific about Christ, it still doesn't answer much about his life or teachings. For example, how does Islam address the sermon on the mount? I mean, why wouldn't there be an almost line by line analysis of what is and isn't correct within the bible given by Muhammad? I guess that's the part I don't understand. If the bible is tainted, either:
1) correct the mistakes.
2) give us the correct version and throw out everything we know.
3) reject the entire thing.
Instead, we get only a wee bit of information from Gabriel. But, we have no idea if Allah approves of us doing something recommended in the old and new treatments (such as gouging out your eyes for looking upon a woman with lust). Islam knows not to eat pork and Christ was born of a virgin. Islam also uses Arabic to keep the Koran pure to prevent misinterpretation. But then it ignores so many previous teachings?
Yeah, I don't buy that.
Quote (simpleforce @ Aug 15 2012 10:50pm)
Something material from nothing doesn't compute.
Thats why I didn't mention God specifically, I'm leaving it open for you to decide what is supernatural. If the supernatural thing wanted to be known, it would give its signs at the very least.
You're right it doesn't compute. Nobody who supports those theories thinks you can have something from nothing. The OP was setting go a strawman by stating atheists think the universe spontaneously came into being.
Quote (simpleforce @ Aug 15 2012 10:50pm)
" it would have completely different physics" -- It would? You mean a different physics model? I don't think so... although this does'nt have much to do with religion anyways.
It would change how things are positioned or our upstanding of how things work. For instance, if the universe is expanding like we think it is, then there still exists a finite amount of matter within the universe. As space expands as a result of the big bang, there's the potential that galaxies, stars, and eventually planets will be incredibly far apart. I.e. all life would cease to exist.
However, if the universe was started by a god with no big bang, then we're probably wrong as to why the universe is expanding. It also means it ends when said god says it ends. In this case, there is little we can do to understand our reality since the physics of it are based in the supernatural.
Quote (AEtheric @ Aug 16 2012 01:59am)
Fuck yeah. I love the lore of necromunda. I think it's awesome how there are mutants living in Hives with recycled air and charging their laspacks on a fire.
40k is, imo, the best sci-fi franchise in existence. Fuck storm troopers and klingons, I want orks. With machine guns.
Necromunda is fun. It has some balance issues. It and mordheim are probably the cheapest GW games you can get into that can be built into a collection.
I just got a new camera. I need to start photographing my models for my portfolio.