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Every picture of protesters I've seen have all been wearing masks and been outside, both of which greatly reduce chance of spread. That is except the ones taking guns into government buildings. Those were inside.


Yeah, I've seen the pics too. LOTS of them aren't wearing masks. None of them were wearing N95 masks either. AND, we're only seeing select pics.


I just realized something. Those protesters are probably burning down stores to help prevent the spread of covid-19. :/

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Yeah, I've seen the pics too. LOTS of them aren't wearing masks. None of them were wearing N95 masks either. AND, we're only seeing select pics.


I just realized something. Those protesters are probably burning down stores to help prevent the spread of covid-19. :/



They should make sure to focus on Republican businesses then, since diseases tend to concentrate among vermin.
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Quote (inkanddagger @ Jul 21 2020 12:38am)
They should make sure to focus on Republican businesses then, since diseases tend to concentrate among vermin.




Save me some of those liberal tears in November. :D
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Save me some of those liberal tears in November. :D



I'm not a liberal and I already know the House of Representatives will conduct a contingent election and Trump will win. It's easy to predict. I want Trump to be re-elected because it means we'll have a Civil War. A Biden presidency would see isolated right wing terrorist incidences but no Civil War, so why would I want him to win?

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I'm not a liberal and I already know the House of Representatives will conduct a contingency election and Trump will win. It's easy to predict. I want Trump to be re-elected because it means we'll have a Civil War. A Biden presidency would see isolated right wing terrorist incidences but no Civil War, so why would I want him to win?


Something along these lines?
https://www.270towin.com/maps/ZPxW8

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Something along these lines?
https://www.270towin.com/maps/ZPxW8


Yeah. All those red and pink states that have Republican delegations will be the ones who decide:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contingent_election
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Quote (inkanddagger @ 21 Jul 2020 07:07)
Yeah. All those red and pink states that have Republican delegations will be the ones who decide:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contingent_election


Yes, I know. To be fair, there are also a ton of small blue states like Vermont, Delaware, Rhode Island and such. But yeah, just like in the Senate, the contingent election favors the party with the more geographically spread out support, i.e. the GOP.



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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jul 20 2020 10:12pm)
Yes, I know. To be fair, there are also a ton of small blue states like Vermont, Delaware, Rhode Island and such. But yeah, just like in the Senate, the contingent election favors the party with the more geographically spread out support, i.e. the GOP.


yup.
Rural America, even as it laments its economic weakness, retains vastly disproportionate electoral strength. Rural voters were able to nudge Donald J. Trump to power despite Hillary Clinton’s large margins in cities like New York. In a House of Representatives that structurally disadvantages Democrats because of their tight urban clustering, rural voters helped Republicans hold their cushion. In the Senate, the least populous states are now more overrepresented than ever before. And the growing unity of rural Americans as a voting bloc has converted the rural bias in national politics into a potent Republican advantage.

Next was a chart that shows the Senate represents 17% of the population in 2015, can't decide if I think it worse or better now. Solidarity to trump may have improved that number.
nah.. that's' not broken.

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yup.Rural America, even as it laments its economic weakness, retains vastly disproportionate electoral strength. Rural voters were able to nudge Donald J. Trump to power despite Hillary Clinton’s large margins in cities like New York. In a House of Representatives that structurally disadvantages Democrats because of their tight urban clustering, rural voters helped Republicans hold their cushion. In the Senate, the least populous states are now more overrepresented than ever before. And the growing unity of rural Americans as a voting bloc has converted the rural bias in national politics into a potent Republican advantage.
Next was a chart that shows the Senate represents 17% of the population in 2015, can't decide if I think it worse or better now. Solidarity to trump may have improved that number.
nah.. that's' not broken.


Without the Senate and the Electoral College, the smaller states would not have joined the Union and there would be no United States of America to being with.

And on the presidential level, the pro-rural or pro-Republican bias is not very pronounced structurally, Trump just happened to stumble onto a coalition that holds an EC advantage at this particular moment in time.

The Senate is the real issue for Democrats. In an extremely and purely theoretic scenario, slightly less than 9% of the US population could elect a Senate majority against the other 91%.
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