give her dreadlocks and u can hit the appropriation trifecta.

The concept of appropriating cultural things some of these minority groups bring up to me is so dumb.

It's the ultimate nod of acceptance or praise from the melting pot, something that should be thanked and encouraged. Like American culture 'appropriating' pizza or Chinese food just basically says hey your culture has bomb-ass food we want it to be part of our wider culture. White people with dreds, the same thing really 'that hairstyle looks really cool and I'm saying that by wearing my hair in that fashion' should be met with acceptance.

You can't have and expect acceptance from the wider culture then tell the wider culture we will be the arbiters of what you can and can't adopt.

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Nov 23 2020 11:50am

this is mostly true, but appropriation is a legitimate thing in select cases.

such as some cases corn rows and dreads. not because taking it is bad, thats normal culture sharing. but because simultaneously whites get acceptance for wearing them while blacks still get criticized. generally with historical oppression.

example:

white people criticize black people wearing corn rows for 100 or so odd years in media, blacks are "not allowed" to wear this objectively black hair style. whites generally control media in this period, and wont let blacks on without using products to tamp their hair down, and only corn rowed characters are labeled thugs, drug dealers, criminals etc.

Then one day Justin Timberlake decides to get corn rows, people love it, he's all over TV, and it doesnt affect how people see him. while at the same time blacks are still not culturally allowed.


these types of cases are rare, and generally the period in which they're valid is fleeting. blacks similarly still have a hard time getting natural hair into media without bad labels, but there is no corresponding white acceptance of these hairstyles.

the issue is that simplistic people misunderstand not only the concept but also the punishment. and see anything that is black as belonging to black people with no nuance. the true cases of cultural appropriation are very small.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Nov 23 2020 12:10pm

I tend to agree. I don't think it's appropriate for a bunch of white people to slap on a thick mustache & sombrero and then butcher the Spanish language...but I'm also not going to be offended by it on the behalf of others. Fragile, white liberals really need to chill the fuck out.

There's a few factors to consider.

If the appropriation destroys or otherwise dilutes the original culture, then that's bad.
If the appropriation is corporatized without the money going to support the culture, that's bad.
If the appropriation is used to create stereotypes and not take the original culture seriously, that's bad.

There's a lot of reasons to be against appropriation of culture in certain cases. In some cases, where the culture is respected or not harmed like with food, it's not bad, but we should be aware of the negatives as well.

still waiting on my check for all of the St Pattys Day bullshit corporations sold on behalf of my culture.

of wait, thats right, white culture isnt real.

on a serious note tho i find only the stereotype bit from above to be legitimate. the rest is just how life works. cultural sharing always causes dilution, and the money never runs back up hill. taco bell isnt shipping cash to mexico for the shitty attempt at making mexican food.

and in any case, "thats bad" begs a question. what do we do about it? what can we do about it?

I agree that real cases are extremely rare.

As far as hair goes I think the tide has really turned the other way now, what you're talking about maybe was a thing like 20 years ago. I feel like a black guy walking into an interview with dreds is much less likely to have some underlying scrutiny applied to him versus a white guy with long hair.

From my experience, black males tend to have long hair at higher proportions than white males. If I was a hiring manager if a black guy walks in with dreads I wouldn't really care if I white guy walks in with a ponytail or man bun I'd immediately think this guy is a tool.

I do think there are real cases of appropriation that are problematic. For example, if you didn't serve in the military but you're wearing army camo going around collecting 'thank you for your service' niceties or getting some discount. Or another example is losers like Shaun King who pretend to be a different race so they can feign outrage or that 2% native person who's yelling at the top of their lungs that they are oppressed because of their identity. There are real no nos imo of appropriation.

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Nov 23 2020 12:57pm

it's up to the pale pasty privileged lefties to decide. they know what's best *LAUGH OUT LOUD*

Not much we can do about it honestly, which is why you see SJW crusades on the topic instead of actual investment in things that fix it.

The money does sometimes run back up hill. Like Chinese food is almost exclusively run by actual Chinese immigrants and families making their life in America. That's one of the reasons why I don't see food as bad appropriation. It's a legitimate culture meld that is brought organically by the members and sold at their benefit.

We can also invest in awareness campaigns about indigenous or immigrant groups, teach about the culture and connection, etc. etc. so it's not done offensively.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Nov 23 2020 12:57pm

Too many yoga shops out there appropriating indian culture. All yoga studios should be shut down immediately i say.