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Feb 22 2016 09:53am
Quote (Skinned @ Feb 16 2016 08:23am)
Here is some data to put against the biases:

http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/SNAPCharts1_1.png

http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/SNAPCharts2.png

http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/SNAPCharts3_1.png

SNAP, the biggest social welfare program, ran by the Department of Agriculture due to it being a huge subsidized check to America's agricultural system and farmers (the GOP attacks farmers when they go after SNAP, remember that rural Americans), turns out to help mostly white people, who have families including children or elderly family members, and are employed and otherwise working.

The top two sources of income are earned income and social security savings, not social welfare programs. SSI is disability, individuals who are impaired for whatever reason and can't work. About 1/5th of the people on welfare it appears have no income (much lower than perceptions usually), and Temporary Aide to Needy Families is such a low percent of the radar that it has never really mattered as far as budgets are concerned, and the average amount of time a family receives help through TANF has been a steady two years since the 1970s...Reagan "reformed" it to limit it to 5 years , his welfare reform, which anybody who knows anything about social welfare just rolled their eyes at, but it helped him perpetuate the myth of the welfare queen to manufacture the white outrage and put racism right into the GOP platform....which we see is still affecting their biases even today according to popular opinions.


so 40% of snap recipients are white and 25% are black. You do realize that 64% of the usa is white and 12% are black right?
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Feb 22 2016 10:04am
Quote (AspenSniper @ Feb 22 2016 09:53am)
so 40% of snap recipients are white and 25% are black. You do realize that 64% of the usa is white and 12% are black right?


Already pointed that out, then went on a multiple-post rant with thor on it.
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Feb 23 2016 12:56pm
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LOL!!!

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so 40% of snap recipients are white and 25% are black. You do realize that 64% of the usa is white and 12% are black right?


Yes, I'm aware of the current distribution of wealth in the United States, I'm a welfare policy guy.

And your numbers are a bit off, maybe 30 years old. There there is also a huge growing "unidentified" racial category. Because 18th century sociology is outdated ;)

This post was edited by Skinned on Feb 23 2016 12:58pm
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LOL!!!



Yes, I'm aware of the current distribution of wealth in the United States, I'm a welfare policy guy.

And your numbers are a bit off, maybe 30 years old. There there is also a huge growing "unidentified" racial category. Because 18th century sociology is outdated ;)


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_the_United_States#Race_and_ethnicity

5-6 years old at most.
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Feb 23 2016 01:40pm
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From that page:



Not as cut and dry as you racists would like to believe.

You all have a drop or two, deal with it B)

Heinz 57 best describes America.

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Feb 23 2016 01:57pm
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From that page:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/44/Census-2000-Data-Top-US-Ancestries.jpg/450px-Census-2000-Data-Top-US-Ancestries.jpg

Not as cut and dry as you racists would like to believe.

You all have a drop or two, deal with it B)

Heinz 57 best describes America.


Ancestry =/= ethnicity.
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Feb 23 2016 01:58pm
Quote (Santara @ Feb 23 2016 02:57pm)
Ancestry =/= ethnicity.


You can't really separate those things. Identity isn't a (Chinese) buffet.
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Feb 23 2016 02:12pm
Quote (Skinned @ Feb 23 2016 01:58pm)
You can't really separate those things. Identity isn't a (Chinese) buffet.


Your welfare statistics aren't categorized by "Chinese, Japanese, German, etc..."
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Quote (Skinned @ Feb 23 2016 12:58pm)
You can't really separate those things. Identity isn't a (Chinese) buffet.


Ugh now I want Chinese food.
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