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Jul 14 2020 01:11pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ 14 Jul 2020 21:08)
LiStEn tO tHe ExPeRts!!!11


we already know that you trump cultists don't agree with that sentiment. no need to triple down on your ignorance.
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Jul 14 2020 01:15pm
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we already know that you trump cultists don't agree with that sentiment. no need to triple down on your ignorance.


You must have missed the fact that whichever "health experts" issued these recommendations contradicted themselves out of a blatantly partisan motive.
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Jul 14 2020 01:36pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ 14 Jul 2020 21:15)
You must have missed the fact that whichever "health experts" issued these recommendations contradicted themselves out of a blatantly partisan motive.


so you're the arbiter of who counts as an expert and who doesn't, and if you disagree with them that disqualifies them? which expert do you trust? fauci? or have you already bought into the anti-fauci propaganda from the white house and think he's some deep state operative trying to undermine trump?

and just for the record, the right to demonstrate applies to every american, not just the right (that ironically tries to label the armed intimidation of elected officials as 'the most american thing imaginable', but protest against police violence 'terrorism').
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Jul 14 2020 01:37pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jul 14 2020 02:15pm)
You must have missed the fact that whichever "health experts" issued these recommendations contradicted themselves out of a blatantly partisan motive.


You mean the non-cited "experts" that fox news references anonymously to create the report with a clearly written by their writers headline?

"close your business but feel free to protest", lol. it's clearly a hacked up quote.
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Jul 14 2020 02:11pm
Quote (fender @ Jul 14 2020 02:43pm)
you have to 'learn' to distinguish between 'proof that would, without any further context, convince a completely oblivious jury in a court of law', and blatantly obvious stuff that every halfway intelligent and objective person can identify immediately. it's funny how everytime it comes to the right wing's racism you act like the former requirement has to be met to identify it as such, trying so hard to delude yourself that everything short of using the n-word on tape, and proudly sporting a swastika tattoo can't possibly be called racist with certainty.

if it quacks like a duck, waddles like a duck, looks like a duck, swims like a duck, flies like a duck, and duck experts determined it's definitely a duck, you might want to overthink your usual stance that it can only be a duck if admits it's a duck - because ducks rarely do that.




You act as if the right wing GAVE Obama his middle name.

It's funny how every time the left thinks about the 2020 election, they dig just a bit deeper to find ANYthing with which to blame the right.



And btw, in Duck speak, quack = duck. So, once again you are wrong. Ducks admit they are ducks, continually. (as per Dr. Doolittle).

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Jul 14 2020 02:14pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jul 14 2020 01:29pm)
Oh, it was for sure intended as a racist dog whistle by a lot of people. I just dont think that the fact they stressed his middle name is sufficient proof for that.

Like I said, imagine his name had been "Barack Vladimir Obama", and Republicans had constantly stressed his middle name - would you also have considered this a racist dog whistle?


You're doing the Cam thing, where you pretend the only thing that has been considered is the one item that has been posted.

You've already said you agree that it's a racist dog whistle by a pot of people, so why bother with the nit picking over specific proofs? We generally all know why it was done by who.
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Jul 14 2020 02:19pm
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You're doing the Cam thing, where you pretend the only thing that has been considered is the one item that has been posted.

You've already said you agree that it's a racist dog whistle by a pot of people, so why bother with the nit picking over specific proofs? We generally all know why it was done by who.


sometimes there's no added value for giving the benefit of the doubt, but in a society that rushes to judgement so quickly i understand the reflex.

i mean, is this even really necessary? "yeah it's racist, but i cant prove it, and anyways maybe they're just calling him that because the president before him attacked someone who has the same last name as his middle name."
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Jul 14 2020 02:21pm
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You act as if the right wing GAVE Obama his middle name.

It's funny how every time the left thinks about the 2020 election, they dig just a bit deeper to find ANYthing with which to blame the right.



And btw, in Duck speak, quack = duck. So, once again you are wrong. Ducks admit they are ducks, continually. (as per Dr. Doolittle).


Even with the name he is mich higher quality of a person than the current do nothing in office.
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Jul 14 2020 02:30pm
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Even with the name he is mich higher quality of a person than the current do nothing in office.




Trump has done more good in 3 years, against overwhelming odds, that Hussein, did in 8 years. In fact, NOTHING Obama did was for the good of this country.
Obama is a smart guy, he could sell your grandmother into sex slavery and convince the people that it was the right thing to do.
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Jul 14 2020 02:32pm
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You mean the non-cited "experts" that fox news references anonymously to create the report with a clearly written by their writers headline?

"close your business but feel free to protest", lol. it's clearly a hacked up quote.


Not really.

In early June, there was an open letter signed by roughly 1300 public health experts, epidemiologists and community stakeholders that basically said "social distancing and mask wearing is super important, but the BLM protests get a free pass".

Read it for yourself if you don't believe me:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Jyfn4Wd2i6bRi12ePghMHtX3ys1b7K1A/view

Some key excerpts:

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On April 30, heavily armed and predominantly white protesters entered the State Capitol building in Lansing,
Michigan, protesting stay-home orders and calls for widespread public masking to prevent the spread of
COVID-19. Infectious disease physicians and public health officials publicly condemned these actions and
privately mourned the widening rift between leaders in science and a subset of the communities that they
serve.

As of May 30, we are witnessing continuing demonstrations in response to ongoing, pervasive, and
lethal institutional racism set off by the killings of George Floyd and Breonna Taylor, among many other Black
lives taken by police. A public health response to these demonstrations is also warranted, but this message
must be wholly different from the response to white protesters resisting stay-home orders.
Infectious disease
and public health narratives adjacent to demonstrations against racism must be consciously anti-racist, and
infectious disease experts must be clear and consistent in prioritizing an anti-racist message.




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Staying at home, social distancing, and public masking are effective at minimizing the spread of
COVID-19. To the extent possible, we support the application of these public health best practices during
demonstrations that call attention to the pervasive lethal force of white supremacy. However, as public health
advocates, we do not condemn these gatherings as risky for COVID-19 transmission. We support them as vital
to the national public health and to the threatened health specifically of Black people in the United States.


We can show that support by facilitating safest protesting practices without detracting from demonstrators’ ability to
gather and demand change. This should not be confused with a permissive stance on all gatherings,
particularly protests against stay-home orders. Those actions not only oppose public health interventions, but
are also rooted in white nationalism and run contrary to respect for Black lives.
Protests against systemic
racism, which fosters the disproportionate burden of COVID-19 on Black communities and also
perpetuates police violence, must be supported.


"Protests against stay-home orders are rooted in white nationalism and disrepect black lives. Protests against systemic racism can be pulled off in safe manner by sticking to the following guidelines: [...] - Protests for other causes should not be permitted though."
Yeah, right.

And finally, here's a nice NY Times article on the issue and the letter:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/06/us/Epidemiologists-coronavirus-protests-quarantine.html




So no, it is not far-fetched at all that the quote shown on the pic I posted is legit.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jul 14 2020 02:35pm
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