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Jul 2 2020 06:27pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jul 2 2020 05:16pm)
"A family member is diagnosed with cancer. The surgery is not covered by your plan, you'd have a 5-figure co-pay; or your family doesnt have healthcare insurance to begin with.
Since the surgery has to happen very soon or the cancer spreads and becomes incurable, slowly saving up is not a feasible option.
Thus, the only choices are taking on debt to pay the life-saving surgery, or see the loved one die."


We have to kill our entire empire and constitution because one guy had a bad day.
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Jul 2 2020 06:29pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ Jul 3 2020 10:27am)
We have to kill our entire empire and constitution because one guy had a bad day.


That empire is already crumbling because millions of people had bad days.
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Jul 2 2020 06:30pm
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We have to kill our entire empire and constitution because one guy had a bad day.


Do you seriously think that the power/wealth of the country and the integrity of the constitution rely on society not showing even one iota of solidarity or compassion for those who got into a bad situation without having made outrageously bad choices?
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Jul 2 2020 06:38pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jul 3 2020 10:30am)
Do you seriously think that the power/wealth of the country and the integrity of the constitution rely on society not showing even one iota of solidarity or compassion for those who got into a bad situation without having made outrageously bad choices?


Its what the corporations and rupurt murdoch want people to think, maintain the status quo, keep the money funnelling up, the wealth gap and productivity gap keep widening and the conservatives think its a good thing, they will be the elite soon enough and can enjoy the spoils of their greed.
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Quote (Plaguefear @ Jul 2 2020 08:38pm)
Its what the corporations and rupurt murdoch want people to think, maintain the status quo, keep the money funnelling up, the wealth gap and productivity gap keep widening and the conservatives think its a good thing, they will be the elite soon enough and can enjoy the spoils of their greed.


You mean people like you?

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Do you seriously think that the power/wealth of the country and the integrity of the constitution rely on society not showing even one iota of solidarity or compassion for those who got into a bad situation without having made outrageously bad choices?


Its not a problem to help people. Don't try to pull that stupid liberal fag shit on me.

But politicians use sob stories like those to create shitty laws, laws which create society-wide problems like:
-dilutes the quality of the average citizen
-creates a moral hazard
-distorts the pricing mechanism of the market leading to skyrocketing prices
-creates a eugenics feedback loop that makes generation upon generation of sicker, unhealthy people

However, you need an IQ above 120 to understand these concepts that are not immediately seen, so most people will never know, understand, or care.
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Jul 2 2020 08:43pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ 3 Jul 2020 03:53)
You mean people like you?



Its not a problem to help people. Don't try to pull that stupid liberal fag shit on me.

But politicians use sob stories like those to create shitty laws, laws which create society-wide problems like:


And I am against these shitty laws too. The bottom line simply is that we should strive for a society in which people themselves are bearing the consequences of the choices and decisions they make, but in which there at the same time is solidarity and a safety net for those who got hit with bad luck, who got into a bad situation without having done anything wrong. These two things are not a contradiction, and I disagree with the notion that we need to go full Koch brothers in order to prevent the country from creeping socialism.


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-dilutes the quality of the average citizen
-creates a moral hazard
-distorts the pricing mechanism of the market leading to skyrocketing prices
-creates a eugenics feedback loop that makes generation upon generation of sicker, unhealthy people

However, you need an IQ above 120 to understand these concepts that are not immediately seen, so most people will never know, understand, or care.


"Dilutes the quality of the average citizen" - you've gone full Mengele. :rolleyes:

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Jul 2 2020 09:49pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jul 2 2020 10:43pm)
"Dilutes the quality of the average citizen" - you've gone full Mengele. :rolleyes:


Look at high school exams from the 1800's. The Democrats have literally lobotomized our children.
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Jul 2 2020 10:02pm
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Look at high school exams from the 1800's. The Democrats have literally lobotomized our children.


High school barely existed in the 1800s. Youre a perfect example of exactly what you are concerned about.
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Jul 2 2020 10:40pm
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High school barely existed in the 1800s. Youre a perfect example of exactly what you are concerned about.


You're a pointless human. My main point still stands.

Thanks for airing your failed arguments.
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Jul 2 2020 10:50pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ 3 Jul 2020 05:49)
Look at high school exams from the 1800's. The Democrats have literally lobotomized our children.


In the 1800s, only the top 20% or so of the population got to visit a high school. Of course they had a higher level back...
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