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May 26 2019 11:12am
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ May 26 2019 11:04am)
I would blame fart right Israeli gov. for this; and also the excessive measures in Germany, historical land of Nazis.


Antisemites like yourself using hatred of israel as justification for hate crimes, constitute the vast majority of such attacks
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ah of course, its of course the fault of others

you are pathetic


Israel fart right gov is definitely involved in destabilizing middle east, directly and indirectly. And it's not 1 agression, this is about 6 digits victims.
Diaspora Jews are paying for this, which is the really pathetic thing here. Along with over-mediatization.

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Antisemites like yourself using hatred of israel as justification for hate crimes, constitute the vast majority of such attacks


keep your venom for you and your kind.

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May 26 2019 12:22pm
France estimations:

23% RN (Old National Front, classic far right)
22% LRM (cant be seriously translated, macron party, centrist)
13% "The Greens" (classic, left)
8% Republican party (classic right party)
7% Rebellious France (new far left - populists eventually)
7% Socialist Party (classic left party)

In 2014

RN 25%
Presidential party (ump, right) 21%
Socialist Party (classic left party) 14%
UDI (democratic union blabla centrists) 10%
"The Greens" (classic, left) 9.5%
FG (Left Front fart left) 6.5%


Globally this is a clear move to the left.

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Quote (Saucisson6000 @ 26 May 2019 20:22)
France estimations:

23% RN (Old National Front, classic far right)
22% LRM (cant be seriously translated, macron party, centrist)
13% "The Greens" (classic, left)
8% Republican party (classic right party)
7% Rebellious France (new far left - populists eventually)
7% Socialist Party (classic left party)

In 2014

RN 25%
Presidential party (ump, right) 21%
Socialist Party (classic left party) 14%
UDI (democratic union blabla centrists) 10%
"The Greens" (classic, left) 9.5%
FG (Left Front fart left) 6.5%


Globally this is a clear move to the left.


what the hell are you talking about?

in 2014, you had far left + greens + socialists at 14+9.5+6.5 = 30%
in 2019, you have new populist far left + greens + socialists at 13+7+7 = 27%.

the camp of leftist parties didnt grow, Le Pen's right-wing party remained steady, the only major change is that under Macron, the centrist party switched places with the classical conservatives.

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Quote (Black XistenZ @ 26 May 2019 19:35)
what the hell are you talking about?

in 2014, you had far left + greens + socialists at 14+9.5+6.5 = 30%
in 2019, you have far left + left populists + greens + socialists at 13+7+7 = 27%.


Ump was sarkozy party, mucho gracias right.
In 2014 UMP = 21, in 2019 = 0,

The fuck you better try to present a clear result for your country instead of barking

/e also 72% in 2019 vs 86% in 2014 (5%- isn't counted) so you can lower the numbers of 2014 (or increase the 2019 ones)
=>Thats all<=

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Quote (Saucisson6000 @ 26 May 2019 20:39)
Ump was sarkozy party, mucho gracias right.
In 2014 UMP = 21, in 2019 = 0,

The fuck you better try to present a clear result for your country instead of barking


What's the difference between Macron and Sarkozy? In terms of actual policy, not in terms of rosy rhetoric.
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May 26 2019 12:48pm
Current projection:



Losers: EPP, S&D (Even though they will remain the largest fractions)

Winners: Greens, ALDE, EFDD
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May 26 2019 12:54pm
sauci cant even read the vote results of his own country

oh boy

Quote (fender @ 26 May 2019 17:26)
did it earlier this week already by absentee vote. we also have municipal elections here, so i prefer to do it from the quiet of my home and take my time for the cumulative voting...


i would have thought that you were the kind of guy to turn up there at 8 am

jokes aside though, there has been some criticism about the absentee vote by the federal election director
https://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/europawahl-bundeswahlleiter-kritisiert-steigende-zahl-an-briefwaehlern-a-1268445.html
and there have been some issues and mistakes in recent elections

whats your take on that? just curious
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May 26 2019 12:56pm
Quote (balrog66 @ 26 May 2019 20:48)
Current projection:

https://nos.nl/data/image/2019/05/26/552716/xxl.jpg

Losers: EPP, S&D (Even though they will remain the largest fractions)

Winners: Greens, ALDE, EFDD


do I read this correctly:

we basically have 4 big blocs in the EP which are of somewhat equal strength:
greens and GUE/NGL with 110ish seats, classical social democrats and leftists with 147 seats, the classical conservatives with 173 seats, various right-wing to far-right factions with a combined seat count of 171 (although they are fragmented and wont work together too much), liberals and centrists with 110ish seats, and some 50 or so others from small parties.


basically, neither EPP + ALDE nor EPP + S&D nor S&D + ALDE have a majority.
A progressive S&D + ALDE + Greens coalition also wouldnt have a majority.

so the only way out that I see is that the 3 classical big factions (conservatives, socialists and liberals) form a graaaaaand coalition.

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Quote (ampoo @ 26 May 2019 19:54)
sauci cant even read the vote results of his own country

oh boy



i would have thought that you were the kind of guy to turn up there at 8 am

jokes aside though, there has been some criticism about the absentee vote by the federal election director
https://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/europawahl-bundeswahlleiter-kritisiert-steigende-zahl-an-briefwaehlern-a-1268445.html
and there have been some issues and mistakes in recent elections

whats your take on that? just curious


Acting like a dumbfuck without any argument fits well with you.


Quote (Black XistenZ @ 26 May 2019 19:42)
What's the difference between Macron and Sarkozy? In terms of actual policy, not in terms of rosy rhetoric.


First thing coming in my mind is the foreign policy regarding Israel :rofl:
UMP right and LRM center is prolly is a simple and cautious way to summarize it, Sarzko trying to steal LePen votes with hating speech is something Macron will never do.


/E oh and this ofc:

Quote (Saucisson6000 @ 26 May 2019 16:02)
Europhobic parties have given up leaving the European Union.
Eurosceptics - right or left - have for the most part removed from their program the idea of holding a referendum on their country's membership of the EU.
Mrs Le Pen continues to blame the EU for most of the French issues, but the one who explained during the 2017 presidential campaign that "about 70%" of her program was not applicable without leaving the EU & the Euro, has today clearly abandoned both the idea of "Frexit" and the idea of changing currency !


LePen party itself moved to the left :rofl:

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