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Feb 12 2016 08:34pm
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“The rural distribution grid operates at a higher voltage and is significantly more expensive to install than an urban grid."

Who cares about how expensive something is right?

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“A significant amount of overhead power lines serve a minority of the electric customers, or about 90 percent of the lines cover 10 percent of the country’s population including many seasonal and vacation homes.

Just more expenses... hahahaha!

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“Power losses in rural distribution are far greater than the urban grid and represent a major percentage of the total line losses nationally, with a negative impact on the country’s overall electric system efficiency.

electric system efficiency can go where the sun dont shine right along economic efficiency!

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“The rural grid is more susceptible to severe weather and storm damage and outages, and is thus less reliable, more difficult to maintain, and time consuming to repair.

Think of all the jobs govt can re-create right?
Its called the broken window windfall!
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“The rural grid’s easement and vegetation removal requirements are disproportionately expensive to maintain.

more expenses... zzz

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“In some cases, the seasonal and vacation homes and businesses served by the rural grid could easily be served by a small farm or wind electric plant.

Why consider realistic alternatives when a massive public works project can be grandstanded on?

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“Millions of private acres have been seized by eminent domain for privately-owned electric transmission and distribution corridors.
“Millions of acres are subject to electric utility easements and control on a percentage of everyone’s property, including citizens like the Amish who do not even use electricity”

Its for the greater good right? Seize peoples land to give others subsidized electricity. They were like the kulaks anyways, and were lucky not to be executed by our gracious leader, right?
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Feb 12 2016 09:04pm
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In the dark? Like all rural Americans would be if some nosy progressives hadn't set out on the agenda of rural electrification.

You're welcome America, enjoy the nice roads, clean food and drink, electricity if you live outside of the cities, and health insurance companies that actually pay your bills when you get sick.


You know, you liberlols aren't even trying to get running water to rural areas but here you are breaking your arms to pat yourselves on the back over rural electrification. Where's your consistency? How come you aren't out beating war drums to run sewers out to 100% of America?
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Feb 12 2016 09:05pm
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You know, you liberlols aren't even trying to get running water to rural areas but here you are breaking your arms to pat yourselves on the back over rural electrification. Where's your consistency? How come you aren't out beating war drums to run sewers out to 100% of America?


Probably because they have running water. Are you serious right now?

Quote (cambovenzi @ Feb 12 2016 08:34pm)
Who cares about how expensive something is right?
Just more expenses... hahahaha!
electric system efficiency can go where the sun dont shine right along economic efficiency
Think of all the jobs govt can re-create right?
Its called the broken window windfall!
more expenses... zzz
Why consider realistic alternatives when a massive public works project can be grandstanded on?
Its for the greater good right? Seize peoples land to give others subsidized electricity. They were like the kulaks anyways, and were lucky not to be executed by our gracious leader, right?


It's pretty pathetic you laugh at the assertion that not everything can be measured in dollars. Until you grow up and realize that there's not much point in talking about it. I'll leave you with some questions ignored by the article that shows the terrible quality of their analysis.

How much money was saved by the poorest in the rural areas who could now buy a refrigerator to store food? How about the people who's lives were saved having access to phones? How much did economic activity increase as a result of this activity? Business can be run much more efficiently when, ya know, there's electricity. This article takes the most basic factor, cost in dollars, and ignores everything else. The assessment of cost in dollars isn't even done well since it doesn't take into account extra activity generated.
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Feb 12 2016 09:07pm
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Probably because they have running water. Are you serious right now?


What the fuck do you think well water and septic systems are then, city slicker?
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Feb 12 2016 09:09pm
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What the fuck do you think well water and septic systems are then, city slicker?


Ummm exactly. They have running water. I grew up on those things. Do I really need to google you the definition of running water?
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Feb 12 2016 09:11pm
Just for clarity, I'm open to the idea that rural electrification was better left to the "free market", but you're not going to convince anybody by posting a libertarian circle jerk. I've heard before that solar panels and other transportable methods of generating electricity might be much further along now, but in the end there was a huge cost to not having electricity in large areas of the country that I think it tilts towards government action for national welfare.
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Feb 12 2016 09:13pm
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Ummm exactly. They have running water. I grew up on those things. Do I really need to google you the definition of running water?


Well water and septic systems ARE PROVIDED BY THE PERSON WHO WANTS IT, not the God-damned government.
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Feb 12 2016 09:17pm
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Well water and septic systems ARE PROVIDED BY THE PERSON WHO WANTS IT, not the God-damned government.


Cool story bro. CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL
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Feb 12 2016 09:21pm
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Cool story bro. CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL


Nah, I'm just drinking and you're retarded. You seriously just compared city water and sanitation (running water, pretty much always from government) to rural water solutions by people who didn't use the government to take care of their problems for them.
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Feb 12 2016 09:24pm
Quote (Santara @ Feb 12 2016 09:21pm)
Nah, I'm just drinking and you're retarded. You seriously just compared city water and sanitation (running water, pretty much always from government) to rural water solutions by people who didn't use the government to take care of their problems for them.


I know :( Terrible that people can sometimes do things without government :D

I mean, I know you're being drunk now, but it's kinda sad that there is a segment of the population brain washed by talking points enough to believe American liberals are communists, or that there aren't some facets of life that collective action can produce better results.
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