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Mar 7 2023 11:25pm
Quote (Modulok2405 @ Mar 7 2023 03:02pm)
Which assumptions? And what did I claim to be right that could be proven to be false? Please clarify that a little bit.

I dont think I am smarter than Dawkins and I never said that, but when he's out there thinking about what might have happened at the beginning of all things, he's just as smart as everyone and his opinion is not better than anyone elses. At the end of the day Richard Dawkins is still an Atheist, wether you like it or not.
The main reason why I dont care about Dawkins is that he is not very likeable. I just dont like him, thats all. His opinions are no reason for that.

Again, there are no people I have trust/faith in when it comes to scientific questions. I know you believe I do, but apart from theories, which no one represents as facts, I am only interested in hard facts.

The speed of light should always be measured as two-way speed by the way. Its way more accurate and also easier to do. I am also not putting faith in anyone here, I have once been part of a group who had the honor to personally watch a speed of light measurement for university.
If you are interested how, let me say it a bit simplified: You shoot a laserbeam directly at the moon, it gets reflected and comes back. Takes about 2.5 seconds. You calculate it and boom: Speed of Light. Easiest and most reliable way to do it.

You shouldnt watch so much youtube videos.


wow? do you really have that hard of a time tracking dialog or is it just a debate tactic to wear out a person? goes back to #3796 this quote "That said, this is not an argument for or against god and I never claimed it would be".

he is antitheist is what he is. hes the kinda person thats poisoned people like you. funny when he slips up and i can use him and people like him to represent my arguments.

meh to late. you already believe what you been told with out testing your self you even admitted to it.
tell me how you determine "hard facts"

you didnt understand the vid at all did you? therefore the correct course of action is dont watch youtube videos.......or? only the ones you select. is it your faith in your self that your the one qualified to select the proper videos that should be watched?
lets try this. what was the speed of light from the earth to the moon? or what was the speed of light from the moon to the earth.
what you measured was the speed of light from the earth to the moon and back to the earth, the two way speed of light
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Mar 8 2023 12:08am
Quote (TiStuff @ Mar 8 2023 06:25am)
wow? do you really have that hard of a time tracking dialog or is it just a debate tactic to wear out a person? goes back to #3796 this quote "That said, this is not an argument for or against god and I never claimed it would be".

he is antitheist is what he is. hes the kinda person thats poisoned people like you. funny when he slips up and i can use him and people like him to represent my arguments.

meh to late. you already believe what you been told with out testing your self you even admitted to it.
tell me how you determine "hard facts"

you didnt understand the vid at all did you? therefore the correct course of action is dont watch youtube videos.......or? only the ones you select. is it your faith in your self that your the one qualified to select the proper videos that should be watched?
lets try this. what was the speed of light from the earth to the moon? or what was the speed of light from the moon to the earth.
what you measured was the speed of light from the earth to the moon and back to the earth, the two way speed of light


Me understanding the videos is not a question here, because I havent watched a single video you linked. Discussing is fine, but I wont watch videos here. If the videos include something you wanna tell me, then tell me and I will respond.

Yes, I know my quote, why did you bring it up again?

Call it Antitheist, call it Atheist. Its the same thing, no reason to differentiate. You cant label people who dont believe your god claim. Also I dont care if Dawkins "slipped up" or not. I dont even know if he did and if he did I dont care about it.

The good thing about not believing the god claim is that you dont have to rely on what anyone says as long as its not evidence for god. It doesnt matter what Dawkins says, not a single bit.

Yes, I know what I measured, thanks for telling me again - I already told you. The One Way cannot be measured by the method we used, so I dont know. Its incredibly hard to measure the one way speed of light, this is why its not done a lot. Whats your point?

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Me understanding the videos is not a question here, because I havent watched a single video you linked. Discussing is fine, but I wont watch videos here. If the videos include something you wanna tell me, then tell me and I will respond.

Yes, I know my quote, why did you bring it up again?

Call it Antitheist, call it Atheist. Its the same thing, no reason to differentiate. You cant label people who dont believe your god claim. Also I dont care if Dawkins "slipped up" or not. I dont even know if he did and if he did I dont care about it.

The good thing about not believing the god claim is that you dont have to rely on what anyone says as long as its not evidence for god. It doesnt matter what Dawkins says, not a single bit.


Just randomly jumping into this conversation. May I ask you if you also are equally skeptical about other things in life, provided you don't have "evidence" for those things?

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Quote (Modulok2405 @ Mar 7 2023 10:08pm)
Me understanding the videos is not a question here, because I havent watched a single video you linked. Discussing is fine, but I wont watch videos here. If the videos include something you wanna tell me, then tell me and I will respond.

Yes, I know my quote, why did you bring it up again?

Call it Antitheist, call it Atheist. Its the same thing, no reason to differentiate. You cant label people who dont believe your god claim. Also I dont care if Dawkins "slipped up" or not. I dont even know if he did and if he did I dont care about it.

The good thing about not believing the god claim is that you dont have to rely on what anyone says as long as its not evidence for god. It doesnt matter what Dawkins says, not a single bit.


very scientific of you........ maybe i read your other dancing later got things to do
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Mar 8 2023 12:13am
Quote (dajusta @ Mar 8 2023 07:10am)
Just randomly jumping into this conversation. May I ask you if you also are equally skeptical about other things in life, provided you don't have "evidence" for those things?


Not necessarily. It always depends on the significance of the claim. If you tell me you just farted, I'd believe you without evidence as its not a significant information.
An extraordenary claim needs extraordenary evidence.

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Mar 8 2023 12:15am
Quote (Modulok2405 @ Mar 7 2023 10:13pm)
Not necessarily. It always depends on the significance of the claim. If you tell me you just farted, I'd believe you without evidence as its not a significant information.
An extraordenary claim needs extraordenary evidence.


As I read your earlier comment about not having evidence for God, this strikes me as sort of saying "I don't have any reason to have faith", or "I don't have any evidence to give me reason to believe." Is that close to what you mean?


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Mar 8 2023 12:17am
Quote (dajusta @ Mar 8 2023 07:15am)
As I read your earlier comment about not having evidence for God, this strikes me as sort of saying "I don't have any reason to have faith", or "I don't have any evidence to give me reason to believe." Is that close to what you mean?


Yes, correct.
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Quote (TiStuff @ Mar 8 2023 07:10am)
very scientific of you........ maybe i read your other dancing later got things to do


I am here to debate and discuss, not to watch videos.
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Mar 8 2023 12:20am
Quote (Modulok2405 @ Mar 7 2023 10:17pm)
Yes, correct.


May I ask what kind of evidence you would see or want to see in order to think or openly consider about the supernatural?
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Mar 8 2023 12:24am
Quote (dajusta @ Mar 8 2023 07:20am)
May I ask what kind of evidence you would see or want to see in order to think or openly consider about the supernatural?


I dont know, but thats not on me. I didnt make a claim I cant prove. The supernatural remains unproven. No idea what evidence would be considerable as again - it has never been done. Thats why I say, that it doesnt make sense to believe in the supernatural opposed to natural events.

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