not only does median income not address the points i raised about ridiculous incarceration rates, police brutality, state surveillance, corrupt politics for the donor class only... it's also a terrible and misleading stat to evaluate how the average person is actually faring. without affordable healthcare and modern social safety nets, without maternal leave and basic worker protections, poverty, health, and even hunger are significant larger problems in the US than in many of its european peers. once again the opposite of your deluded narrative is the truth. that's why in reality, the US ranks 28th in inequality-adjusted HDI, behind even the likes of poland and estonia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_inequality-adjusted_Human_Development_Index

the real reason is a different one: today's gun nuts are the last people who'd ever revolt. they are the first to lick authority's boot, the first to get instrumentalised to attack their fellow americans over some made up culture war issue, and the last ones to push for any kind of meaningful change.

says the dude with a sea of aborted kids to his "its fine" credit all of a sudden is the mostest about kids.

you posted the last part like 10 times already

i already said that i dont agree with a lot of talking by gun enthusiasts however you are just missing logic here

you dont have to revolt in the first place, when gun ownership prevents the state from overreaching

australia disarmed its citizens and then it became an open air prison because of a sickness with 99,9% survival rate

yikes

who are the people slap on a mask n never question it? the first to lick authority's boot thats who
who are the people that took an experimental jab never even question it?" the first to lick authority's boot thats who
who are the one screeching in the street Burning Looting and Murdering for the DNC? the first to lick authority's boot thats who.
attack fellow americans? culture war of the crotch obsessed. meaningful change?

This post was edited by TiStuff on May 27 2022 09:02am

"prevents the state from overreaching" lol - what part about america being the country with the largest prison population in the history of mankind, a huge chunk of those non-violent, low level offenders, did you miss? the constant overreach of the state into privacy matters? the political class openly selling out the population to corporations and refusing to implement even basic levels of protection? you're the one who's missing the point here. 'despite' (i'd argue the gun issue actually helped facilitate it) all those guns, the american state "overreached" much more than peer countries. corruption, inequality, poverty, life expectancy, freedom... guns did nothing to keep those issues in check in america, it's a dumb argument that lacks any kind of evidence.

the opposite is the case - you acknowledged yourself that part of the police brutality and incarceration problem is that every citizen is simply a potentially lethal thread due to everyone, no matter how mentally unstable they are, could possess a gun - thanks to republican lawmakers.

and no, your typical science denial concerning covid, different approaches and cultures (usa: > 3,000 deaths/capita - aus: 320 deaths/capita), do not magically flip all that that on its head. if anything, trump managing to make the world's pea brained right-wingers sacrifice themselves and anyone unfortunate enough to live close to them, is a sign of how comprehensive that overreach is, that a (bad) political calculation by one idiot makes millions of npcs reject experts and scientists just further proves my point about today's gun nuts being nothing but authoritarian boot lickers.

the irony talking about government overreach in the states when in your home country armed police harassed people sitting down on a bench outside

and for your record: biden "has" way more covid deaths under his belt despite the jab and it was the states making the policy anyway

nice job talking about trump out of nowhere and then using a completely false statement to make a point

fantastic job buddy and literally nobody licks more government boot than you here

LOL.

Of course median income talks to how the median American is doing, that's the definition. American incarceration rates are in line with America's high rates of crime, if you want to go back and muddle through the posts you dodged earlier, you are welcome to. I'm not sure what state surveillance you think impacts the average American's life. We're certainly a world away from the sort of monitoring that is happening on a daily basis in the UK (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_surveillance_in_the_United_Kingdom#CCTV_networks). Health-care in the United States is largely paid for via insurance. It's an incredibly inefficient system, but America is thankfully wealthy enough to afford it. The difference in average spending per capita between Germany and the United States (on health-care) is roughly ~$5k (gdp ppp). The median income gap between those two countries is roughly ~$13k. I'm sure you can do the math. As for "inequality-adjusted" HDI, sample a 1000 foreigners and ask them whether they'd like to move to the United States or Poland. The results (we both know) tell you all you need to know about the value of your newly preferred metric. You're introducing this because you know that the United States's HDI is indistinguishable from the wealthiest EU countries, and that's with poor regional states like Mississippi, Alabama, and Louisiana pulling American averages down. Can you imagine if we bucketed Germany with their poor serfs in Southern and Eastern Europe? Compare American equality against EU equality and get back to me.

you dodged literally everything i said about overreach just to double down on your science denial based on licking trump boot, lol. pathetic, even for you.

someone sets a school on fire, children are burning, fire fighters arrive and do their best to save the poor bastards, but it's too late, the burns are too severe, the children die. poo logic: "most of the children died when the fire department was in charge. it's their fault, not the arsonist's. checkmate, i am very intelligent."

your attacks become dumber every time, its not even entertaining anymore on a boring train ride

keeps the BLM/antifa street thugs confined to the deep blue chitholes

trump? the left cant live with out trumpy whumpy
look they raising their arms up in worship
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSfWcOmFwjRvoYLLfIGSQ9V2NEizqCO22C4Cw&usqp=CAU

hugging trumpy whumpy


This post was edited by TiStuff on May 27 2022 10:24am