Heh. You seriously think that Russia's formation of a symbiotic bond with China, which has played a part in allowing them to pretty much just totally ignore US/European sanctions and brush them off as if they are nothing, makes them an "embarrassment to the Russian people" and a long-term vassal to the Chinese?

Please. If anything, they have displayed incredible resilience in the face of a major adversary that has been trying for decades to eliminate them from the world scene, and so far has failed.

Russia and China have formed a true partnership that allow them to tackle the west, together, and give them both a much greater chance of success.

The United States is going to have to accept this reality sooner or later, and is much better off joining Russia and China in the creation of a multi-polar world where power is shared between nations, and international law is actually respected, instead of continuing to pursue the policy of "full spectrum dominance" and trying to force a unipolar world order on the planet, where the US basically gets to be dictator of the whole planet, a path which is currently being rejected by some 50% of the world's population.

The alternative, if we continue down this path, is a global thermonuclear holocaust and ww3. Sorry, but the rest of the planet isn't just going to accept being enslaved by the west's political and financial elite. Nor should they, nor should anyone that wants to be free and able to have sovereignty over their own nation's affairs.

So can you blame them, then? The USA badly needs a change in leadership that is capable of recognizing this reality and capable of choosing to be a part of this global transformation instead of continuing to act like total world domination is even a possibility at this point, or that it's even preferable to simply treating eachother as equals on the world stage.

I saw this track live yesterday, although I gotta say it's odd that a USAF UAV would be broadcasting ADS-B. It's also odd to see almost no air traffic over Ukraine at all (this image only shows the UAV tracks, but live view shows almost empty skies over Ukraine).



This post was edited by Surfpunk on Feb 21 2022 03:03pm

Production inputs are not equal in price across the globe. It costs Russia a small fraction to build one of their military aircraft compared to ours. That's why hard resources >. A better figure if you want to compare economic capability is purchasing power parity in which they are number 6 globally behind Japan.

GDP does not really help you a lot when you have a society that isnt even willing to defend its own culture

something like 75% of people in the states are overweight and even fewer somewhat useful human beings

right now the us military is obviously supreme, but the clock is ticking



agreed, china is the enemy of humanity and it instead of burying the cold war hatchet we give them a new ally

Russian GDP per Capita, 2013 = $2,292 billion
Russian GDP, 2020 = $1,483 billion (-35%)

Chinese GDP per Capita, 2013 = $9,570 billion
Chinese GDP per Capita, 2020 = $14,720 billion (+53%)

Somebody seems to winning, alright.

The United States isn't trying to eliminate Russia from the world scene. Russia isn't significant enough for that to be necessary. They're sanctioning Russia for what amounts to unacceptable behavior.

But let's say that that's the case, what have Russians gotten for their trouble? A declining standard of living, collapsing population figures, brain drain to the West, and resource drain to the East.

that putin speech sure was......something

and russian troops moving into the separatist held areas according to RT

alright now things get really interesting

Neither is intellectual capital. By GPD (PPP), the Chinese have the largest economy on earth. They produce their own operating systems, technological and military equipment. But at least as of now, it's of far lower quality.

Even bigger news: Putin is officially ordering peacekeepers into DPR and LPR after having recognized the republic's independence.

This will be the first time since the war broke out in 2014 that Russia is actually sending troops into Donbass, and not just providing assistance in the form of supplies from over the border while the local militia is left to fend for itself.

DPR and LPR will now be a south Ossetia-like independent republic directly under the protection of Russian peacekeepers, and will no longer be responsible for defending themselves on their own.

Well, I hope Ukraine is happy - if they had not signed off on Biden's order to attack DPR/LPR, engaged in massive shelling all over the front-line and stuck to the Minsk agreement, technically Donbass may have eventually re-integrated into Ukraine, albeit with a certain degree of autonomy. Now it is lost to them forever. Ukraine has completely screwed itself, and they have only themselves to blame. All those Ukrainian army soldiers died for nothing.

And now an attack on Donbass by the Ukrainian army is also a direct attack on Russian forces - they will not be allowed to continue shelling civilians like how they were before. For the past 8 years the shelling coming from the Ukrainian army has never stopped, and civilians have kept dying. Russia has decided they will no longer tolerate this.

Wow. Great move Biden! Great move Zelensky! You destroyed the only option for peace and finally provoked the Russians into responding. What brilliant plans will they come up with next, I wonder?

So Russia is moving troops into Ukraine under a shitty pretext we all saw coming a mile off and this is your spin after telling us Russia would never invade Ukraine.

Haha - the US isn't trying to eliminate Russia from the world scene? Oh really? Then why did they do a coup in Ukraine, install a fascist regime subservient to their interests, and then use said fascist regime to try and start a war with Russia as soon as Biden took office in a desperate bid to destroy NS2 and prevent rising Russian economic ties to Europe?

And why is NATO trying to get Ukraine and Georgia into their ranks so they can more effectively threaten Russia with a nuclear first-strike enabled by NATO missile bases in these territories?

Sorry, but you really just don't know what you're talking about. Dick-measuring by throwing around GDP numbers is not an accurate reflection of reality.

Russian-Chinese world influence is growing, while the US is declining as a world power. Hence the present 'crisis' as the Neocons in Biden's administration get increasingly desperate to prevent the emerging multi-polar world order being led by their supposed enemies.

As they get increasingly desperate, the chances they will start another world war increase dramatically. These are extremely dangerous times for our entire planet.

The solution is simple: we must give up on our attempts to dominate the world, and accept Russia and China as equal partners. The alternative is death for billions of people. How many times do I have to say it? Sorry, but it's the truth.