They are referring to poor individuals - they are less likely to procure voter ID due to their predicament. Blacks and Hispanics have the highest poverty rate therefore one can conclude it's racist to disenfrenchize said demographic but nice hyperbolic statement

i think its more racist to assume just b/c black or hispanic person is poor they are unable or not educated enough to know where their dmv is and get a damn voter ID... its a big slap in the face imo that whites are basically saying "i know you being black and poor your not smart enough to get an id, so my fellow whites are here to help my negro friends!"

poor people tend to be uneducated and are financially illiterate, there's nothing racist about underestimating them

That is such a crock of shit argument tbh.

There are approximately 9.3 million "black" people in poverty in the US. There are approximately 12.7 million "brown" people in poverty in the US. There are approximately 26.6 million "white" people in poverty in the US.

If anything, by your standards, voter ID requirements would literally be disenfranchising more white people than black and brown people combined. But that's simply not true, is it? In Georgia, for instance, state issued ID is FREE if you're getting it for the purpose of voting. Costs nothing. Zero.

To name a few other things you need ID for: Purchasing alcohol, tobacco, and firearms. Renting a vehicle. Flying on a plane. Buying a house. Renting a house or apartment. Shall we go on? The assumption that poor people can't get to the DMV is false and stupid. The idea that poor people can't get ID is false and stupid.

Voter ID laws have nothing to do with "disenfranchising" anyone. It has to do with verifying both identity and legal right to vote. Your statements are as racist as Biden's statements that "black people can't use the internet to figure out how to get vaccines".

The real irony regarding all the nonsense over the Georgia voting laws is the MLB All Star game was moved from Atlanta, a metro that is 34.3% black, 47.2% nonwhite overall, to Denver, a place with a 9.2% black population, overall white population of 76.1%, and stricter ID requirements than Georgia.

Ironically, in their attempt to make some fake "we oppose racism" statement, the MLB made one of the most racist moves they could possibly have made. Where are the riots?

I've heard a lot of users say that it's dumb that people can't go to the DMV. Personally I think that argument is dumb, regardless of who makes it, because it's not meant to be an absolute impediment, and is meant to make voting differentially difficult.

However, this is besides the point to any conversation that might happen here or elsewhere, because this thread can be closed. Since the Floyd case is over, and there were no more riots.

Yes, but blacks constitute 12% of the population so it's disproportionate compared to for instance whites that make up I believe 60%. I'm just saying if you are going to advocate for voter id law and subsequently bring a hurdle, might as well complement it with a plan to address the small minority of voters who have and will have trouble exercising their right to vote for whatever reason. They are just using the widespread voter fraud meme as a crux in order to cull out that extra 3% that generally favor Democrats. If their intentions are pure, why not curtail the problem in a hotly contested state.

Votes and voting results are not based on proportionality. They're based on flat numbers. A vote from a black person is the same as a vote from a brown person is the same as a vote from a white person. Thus, allegations of attempts to disenfranchise voters that would literally impact more white voters than black and brown voters combined would, according to your own reasoning, be specifically targeting what you've indicated would be the GOP base disproportionately.

Once again though: ID isn't about disenfranchising anyone. Citizens of France or China or Russia or Britain or Mexico or Chile should not be voting in US elections. Only US citizens should be voting in US elections. ID laws are what assures that non-citizens do not attempt to interfere in US elections. And the illegality of "poll taxes" is precisely why free IDs are offered to those who claim they cannot afford an ID otherwise.

The real irony here is the US is honestly far more lax in it's ID requirements than the majority of the first world, when it comes to voting. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_identification_laws#:~:text=In%20France%2C%20voters%20must%20prove,an%20identity%20document%20is%20required

Once again, US Citizens have a right to keep and bear firearms. This is a right for all citizens that dates back to the founding of the nation. Voting is NOT a right for all citizens that dates back to the founding of the nation. At the nation's founding, only landowners had a right to vote, and female landowners (depending on the state) typically had to vote through a proxy. Yet we require ID and a background check to purchase firearms and ammo. The argument that "voting is a right" and therefore ID shouldn't be required? It's nonsense.

BTW, 4 of the last 7 days riots have been declared in Portland. The riots haven't stopped or slowed down. And there are more "autonomous zones" today than there were immediately after the Floyd incident. Protests have continued in Minneapolis. Been seeing conflicting reports regarding whether they could be regarded as riots. A burned church for instance has been claimed as burned by rioters, others claim it's an unrelated crime. Regarding shut down streets by protestors (blocking commerce), that has continued. I think Minneapolis specifically hasn't seen the level of violent rioting specifically because of the level of enforcement and national guard presence they brought in to prevent it.

Ok, so you dismiss the fact that the voter id will disproportionately affect black people because you essentially don't care. If widespread voter fraud was a proven major issue, then I'd say the law is valid however it hasn't been demonstrated to any meaningful effect thus far so this is pure political. You typically don't want to set up a road block for voting so why even put "precautionary" measures when there's no actual issue at hand.

All I'm saying is that it's disproportionately impactful to poor people notably minorites (12% vs 60% , 25 mil vs 9 mil). Based on your numbers, you are more likely to be poor as a black person than a white person . Therefore, you are placing a disproportionate burden on black people, so logic follows the bill is racist in that regard.

Some people don't understand basic things like constitutional rights, and how there's a difference between luxuries, like buying alcohol, and constitutional rights, like voting.

It's really sad that our education system has failed those people, because a basic understanding of rights would have been helpful. Like how free speech works. But they tend not really appreciate rights we all appreciate.