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Aug 27 2020 09:20am
Quote (bogie160 @ 27 Aug 2020 10:57)
He's a wanted criminal who resisted arrest, shook off attempts to subdue him via non-lethal means, and who proceeded to go for a weapon before the police finally took action and shot him.

This is textbook "yep, it's justified".




sir none of that matters according to the lefty media and local residents, they are going to abolish the police in his honor.
damn re-read over what goom posted, quite a gross forced interaction by him with the girlfriend, which led to the cops being called.

still doesn't excuse their incompetence on actually carrying out the arrest
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Quote (duffman316 @ Aug 27 2020 09:22am)
I'd support execution by a firing squad for people who leave shopping carts in parking spots instead of returning them to where they belong ^_^


100% justifiable termination of life for what you just said.

Nothing worse than pulling into a parking spot in a busy lot only to see a cart hanging out.

Quote (bogie160 @ Aug 27 2020 09:57am)
He's a wanted criminal who resisted arrest, shook off attempts to subdue him via non-lethal means, and who proceeded to go for a weapon before the police finally took action and shot him.

This is textbook "yep, it's justified".


Wanted criminal (having a warrant) doesn't justify termination of life. His BOLO wasn't armed and dangerous.

Shook off attempts? I'm not 100% clear on this, would love more info.

Proceeded for a weapon - he went into his car, which is a big no no, but i wasn't aware of any deadly weapon.

The guy certainly fucked up, and did not help his case. Again, based on the video I watched, He didn't do anything to justify 7 bullets in the back.

I don't claim to know everything about the situation, or know what happened 20 minutes before the video ran.

We're getting into scary times when lethal use of force is "yep, it's justified" for a nonviolent situation. This isn't Michael Brown beating the shit out of cop and assaulting gas station employee level in my eyes.

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Quote (djman72 @ Aug 27 2020 10:24am)
100% justifiable termination of life for what you just said.

Nothing worse than pulling into a parking spot in a busy lot only to see a cart hanging out.



Wanted criminal (having a warrant) doesn't justify termination of life. His BOLO wasn't armed and dangerous.

Shook off attempts? I'm not 100% clear on this, would love more info.

Proceeded for a weapon - he went into his car, which is a big no no, but i wasn't aware of any deadly weapon.

The guy certainly fucked up, and did not help his case. Again, based on the video I watched, He didn't do anything to justify 7 bullets in the back.

I don't claim to know everything about the situation, or know what happened 20 minutes before the video ran.

We're getting into scary times when lethal use of force is "yep, it's justified" for a nonviolent situation. This isn't Michael Brown beating the shit out of cop and assaulting gas station employee level in my eyes.


This isn't the reason his life was terminated. He was killed because he resisted multiple non-lethal attempts to subdue him and then went to his car for a weapon.
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Aug 27 2020 09:39am
Police use of force isn't about what people deserve, its about what it necessary.
Fighting police while armed with a knife and trying to reach into a vehicle with kids you're trying to kidnap while officers have guns drawn on you? He made it necessary
They gave him plenty of opportunity to surrender and drop the knife
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Aug 27 2020 09:40am
Kyles a fuckin hero
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Quote (Goomshill @ Aug 27 2020 10:39am)
Police use of force isn't about what people deserve, its about what it necessary.
Fighting police while armed with a knife and trying to reach into a vehicle with kids you're trying to kidnap while officers have guns drawn on you? He made it necessary
They gave him plenty of opportunity to surrender and drop the knife


Nah, that's pretty stupid.

A man with his back to you is never a threat if all they have is a knife.

Shooting somebody in the back is the ultimate pussy move, and anybody who would defend somebody shooting someone else in the back is also a giant pussy.
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Aug 27 2020 09:45am
Wanna be cop. Imagine that.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/27/us/kenosha-wisconsin-shooting-suspect/index.html



This post was edited by said_aouita on Aug 27 2020 09:49am
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Aug 27 2020 09:58am
Quote (Thor123422 @ Aug 27 2020 10:41am)
Nah, that's pretty stupid.

A man with his back to you is never a threat if all they have is a knife.

Shooting somebody in the back is the ultimate pussy move, and anybody who would defend somebody shooting someone else in the back is also a giant pussy.


A man with a knife is an immediate lethal threat to anyone within about a 10 ft radius in any direction save upwards.
Policing isn't about bravado or dangerous heroics. When fighting a knife wielding rapist, they don't throw their gun on the ground and pull out their own knife and challenge him to a duel with a one-liner.
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Aug 27 2020 10:00am
Quote (Thor123422 @ Aug 27 2020 11:41am)
Nah, that's pretty stupid.

A man with his back to you is never a threat if all they have is a knife.

Shooting somebody in the back is the ultimate pussy move, and anybody who would defend somebody shooting someone else in the back is also a giant pussy.


Police struggle to answer "What is this man who is violently resisting arrest reaching into his car to get?" in the moment. The shooting is justified because Blake's actions create an unacceptable risk endangering both the police and bystanders, including the children present in the car.

This is policing 101. Recruits are specifically shown training videos of what happens to officers who hesitate when faced with a violent suspect. Cops shot dead in traffic stops, cops bumrushed and stabbed to death prison style, etc. This is how we train them to react, understanding that they are not signing up to die for $50k a year + benefits, and that their lives and the lives of bystanders must be prioritized over a suspect who is consciously endangering the lives of those around him.
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Aug 27 2020 10:04am
Quote (TritonV8 @ Aug 27 2020 10:30am)
This isn't the reason his life was terminated. He was killed because he resisted multiple non-lethal attempts to subdue him and then went to his car for a weapon.


So his plan wast o attack a bunch of armed cops with a knife next to his kids? This is the story they say?
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