Quote (sinbad2 @ Sep 16 2010 07:00pm)

LMAO at you, molten aluminum is never red hot, if it does is,its near combustion but then it burns white hot like magnesium.
It fell in less then 20secs so it was free fall speed.

Quote (Santara @ Sep 16 2010 06:09pm)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLShZOvxVe4

Free fall = 9 seconds to fall 110 stories.

South tower = 15 seconds.

North tower = 22 seconds.

Read about molten metals here: http://debunking911.com/moltensteel.htm

Quote (balrog66 @ Sep 16 2010 06:12pm)

http://11-settembre.blog spot.com/2008/03/nist-confirms-ups-on-81st-floor-of-wtc2.html

And go read up the links in this thread:

http://forums.randi.org/local_links.php?catid=18

Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ Sep 16 2010 06:15pm)

I worked in an aluminum casting plant over the summer in high school . I will state unequivically that molten aluminum burns red since one of my jobs was cleaning the molten drips of aluminum from the pour pot .

Quote (sinbad2 @ Sep 16 2010 08:03pm)

well aluminum is only red hot when in the pot, while being poured it cools to the point where it has a mirrored look to it and
if it was still red out it would oxidize so fast the metal would be worthless.
The point is the video with bright glowing metal cant be aluminum for the fact it would cool so fast it would look like dust and not metal

Quote (sinbad2 @ Sep 17 2010 12:03am)

free fall spees = your correct there.

south tower = 12 secs...only slightly off

north tower = 12 to 15 secs...
what video did you watch , cause i just watched an old news feed from that day and the times are abit different, and isnt pancakeing at all.
as the for link nist has shown "willful ignornace" of the event
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-XA0Rv1Ng8... meeting with john l gross from nist in 2007... he avoids so much. why?



your first link there is a dead one, soooooooo, yeaa! i could be a dick here but thats not my style.
second one, what is it you want me to see there? i am not a fucking mind reader ,i read it all and cant see you wanted me to see there.




well aluminum is only red hot when in the pot, while being poured it cools to the point where it has a mirrored look to it and
if it was still red out it would oxidize so fast the metal would be worthless.
The point is the video with bright glowing metal cant be aluminum for the fact it would cool so fast it would look like dust and not metal

Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ Sep 17 2010 12:10am)

You are again incorrect . The stream of molten aluminum was just as red when the molten metal was poured and the fill hole of the mold would remain bright red for minutes until the skim on the top would begin to turn back to it's original gray/silver . When the pour temperature is held to a constant the molten aluminum remains bright red indefinately .

Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ Sep 16 2010 07:10pm)

You are again incorrect . The stream of molten aluminum was just as red when the molten metal was poured and the fill hole of the mold would remain bright red for minutes until the skim on the top would begin to turn back to it's original gray/silver . When the pour temperature is held to a constant the molten aluminum remains bright red indefinately .

Quote (balrog66 @ Sep 16 2010 07:10pm)

For one, did you take out the space in my second link? Since d2jsp has blogspot blocked.

And the molten metal could be anything from an office that's been heated to the point of glowing red hot.

Quote (balrog66 @ Sep 16 2010 07:12pm)

Wrong buddy, here's a vid to prove it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14WR9YtXxwc

Quote (sinbad2 @ Sep 17 2010 12:24am)

but this still does not expalin how molten "alum" could still be red hot in a open area,
is argon used in the pots to keep the surface from oxdizing? i have only welded alum never cast with it.



check your own post and that sould answer your question, i can see the words "blockspot" and copied the entire link exactly,
even put in www. infornt of "11-settembre." and nothing
....ok never mind i got it working now....misread something there.



nice video dude, molten metals always fascinate me

Quote (balrog66 @ Sep 16 2010 07:29pm)

Just copy paste it and delete the space.

You new at internets?

Quote (sinbad2 @ Sep 16 2010 08:32pm)

I missed the part about remove the space, my bad.
reading now, still alot of stuff there from NIST and they have shown nothing but avoidance to some of the real questions
video on there shows so much molten melts streaming out like its being cut with a oxy acetylene torch, and to fall and such a great distance and stay red shows a chemical reaction is takeing place, aka thermite
no fuel could melt alum like this

Quote (balrog66 @ Sep 16 2010 07:12pm)

Wrong buddy, here's a vid to prove it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14WR9YtXxwc

Quote (sinbad2 @ Sep 16 2010 07:03pm)

free fall spees = your correct there.

south tower = 12 secs...only slightly off

north tower = 12 to 15 secs...
what video did you watch , cause i just watched an old news feed from that day and the times are abit different, and isnt pancakeing at all.
as the for link nist has shown "willful ignornace" of the event
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-XA0Rv1Ng8... meeting with john l gross from nist in 2007... he avoids so much. why?