Quote (ofthevoid @ Mar 28 2023 06:04pm)

Details of how they came to the conclusion that I should go kill a bunch of kids are important IMO. They are important in white supremacist cases and they are important in cases like this. I just get the sense that we don't want the wrong** ideology or motivation to be associated with things like school shootings when it comes to your reasoning. If he was motived by anti-Christian lgbt ideology arguing for violence that should be aired. They way he came to those conclusions and his sources and enablers should be aired. IMO it's the proper societal mechanism to publicly discourage toxic ideologies.

Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ Mar 28 2023 06:03pm)

the people have a right to know this unhinged trans propaganda that has lead to this

Quote (ofthevoid @ Mar 28 2023 07:55pm)

Interesting, honestly first I hear of this take, typically there's no hesitancy nor any pushback to release these manifestos. Usually the people that want to point out how fucked up white supremacist ideology or whatever other hate filled inspiration should be aired out to basically shit on that thought process and show precisely what we shouldn't believe.

Toxic ideology needs to be publicly shamed, not hidden because (all of the sudden) it gives the perp notoriety, which honestly i don't really buy. Like 99% of people would just say "oh that's some fucked up stuff he believed, i should check myself to see if i believe any of this garbage".

Quote (Handcuffs @ Mar 28 2023 05:47pm)

The argument is that a pretty significant amount of research has been done on this topic, where certain trends/patterns have become illuminated. One of these being is that it seems to be the case, strongly, that shooters are often inspired by past mass shooters. In the United States, Columbine is probably the most infamous mass shooting event--both in the collective consciousness of society, but also specifically amongst shooters. The Columbine Shooters were inspired by the Oklahoma City Bomber and were hoping to get a "higher score"; however, thankfully, the explosives they made ended up being duds. Subsequently, there have been countless mass shooters who, through their online posts, manifestos, and/or testimony shows that they were 1) Inspired by a past mass shooter(s) and that 2) They were hoping to get a "higher score" than them.

Going out and committing a mass shooting event is one of the quickest ways that people have learned that they can become famous, get their own manifesto out, and have an impact. And, due to the 24/7 media cycle in the US, we afford them a tremendous amount of fame which then only contributes to inspiring future shooters.

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Quote (inkanddagger @ Mar 28 2023 06:21pm)

Unfortunately, this wasn’t an attack on Christianity. We have hard copy now showing it was suicide by cop.

Quote (blahaj @ Mar 28 2023 10:09pm)

so about those christian religiously motivated killings i asked you about earlier....

Quote (blahaj @ Mar 28 2023 06:09pm)

so about those christian religiously motivated killings i asked you about earlier....

Quote (TiStuff @ Mar 28 2023 06:09pm)

perhaps the gun grabbers abortion nuts are to blame when they plaster it every were using it to virtue signal.

Quote (TiStuff @ Mar 28 2023 08:12pm)

you wont find that in scripture. so if your sold on that idea someone has bamboozled you

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past tense: bamboozled; past participle: bamboozled

fool or cheat (someone)

Quote (Handcuffs @ Mar 28 2023 09:07pm)

I think you're sensing something that isn't actually there with the bolded, to be direct. Not faulting you; just an observation.

Some level of detail for motivations should always be shared, if anything is to be shared at all. What I'm saying though is that I think a Spark's Notes version via law enforcement suffices for the purposes you're describing, whereas the full manifesto release is more about spectacle rather than societal benefit.


I don't disagree, necessarily.