Quote (Modulok2405 @ Mar 6 2023 06:23am)

I dont have any faith, I also dont go with what anyone told me. I dont know where you have that from.

Also YOU YOURSELF said that we humans are by definition supernatural because we dont know were life originated. Thats what you said.

That would mean that everything is supernatural, because everything - not only life - originated at a certain point. A point we cannot fully explain and most likely never will. What we know about the big bang can be observed, calculated, explained, tested. Its not just a story, the traces are actually there.

Nature itself was not always there, so what about that? Is everything that has ever existed or will exist supernatural now?

All you always do is post definitions and youtube videos, but what you do not have is common sense. You can not put 1 and 1 together, its absolutely not possible for you.

And what did you not get about my example of the brother? Did you think I had to guess while I see the brother with my own eyes or what?
I guess thats how you are.
You dont get anything, dont understand anything, try to feed your strange creationist narrative without anything ever making any sense.

Quote (CPK001 @ Mar 7 2023 03:31am)

Day 14: The Appeal.

In a world that is broken, the psalmist appeals to God to deal with his false accusers. The idea of such a plea ("May my accusers be clothed with dishonor") can be uncomfortable to those of us who are not exposed to the injustices of war, genocide and sex trafficking as others throughout the world are. And yet, at some point we have all chosen to repay evil for evil. But instead of addressing injustice on his own, the psalmist takes this injustice to God and appeals to him to act on his behalf. He chooses to allow a just and holy God to deal with those who have wronged him instead of seeking retribution himself.

If God were only forgiving but not just, there would be nowhere for us to go when we are sinned against. But God's holiness will not tolerate injustice. As comforting as that sounds at first, we also are unjust, so unless there is some remedy for us, we will be judged with the same judgment as our oppressors. The only reason the psalmist (or we) can appeal to God is because Christ has already spoken on our behalf. When Christ cried out to God from the cross, he was rejected and scorned because he was taking the place of a sinful humanity. Now we can appeal to God because he looks at us through the sinless Christ who spoke on our behalf.

Psalms 109:21-31

But you, O God my Lord,
deal on my behalf for your name's sake;
because your steadfast love is good, deliver me!
For I am poor and needy,
and my heart is stricken within me.
I am gone like a shadow at evening;
I am shaken off like a locust.
My knees are weak through fasting;
my body has become gaunt, with no fat.
I am an object of scorn to my accusers;
when they see me, they wag their heads.

Help me, O Lord my God!
Save me according to your steadfast love!
Let them know that this is your hand;
you, O Lord, have done it!
Let them curse, but you will bless!
They arise and are put to shame, but your servant will be glad!
May my accusers be clothed with dishonor;
may they be wrapped in their own shame as in a cloak!

With my mouth I will give great thanks to the Lord;
I will praise him in the midst of the throng.
For he stands at the right hand of the needy one,
to save him from those who condemn his soul to death.

Stay tuned for day 15 of 40.

Quote (Modulok2405 @ Mar 7 2023 04:22am)

Before I answer the rest of your post: You can post as much videos about "atheist churches" as you want, but they do not exist.

Its pretty simple: Atheist refuse to believe the unproved claim of an existing god figure, no matter which god but we do not claim a single thing.
There is nothing to preach, there is no one we wanna convince, we dont have an allknowing book, we dont have an allknowing personality, we do not follow anyone's special rules.
The only thing Atheists have trust in, is Truth.

By the way: Your views arent so different from mine. There are Thousands of gods that people believe in. You dont believe in any of those except for one. And I believe in one god less ;-)

It takes exactly zero faith to not believe the god claim. I know its hard for you to comprehend, but its true.
If someone tells me that something extraordenary is true, then I dont believe it until its proven. Thats totally normal in every life situation - except for daily shit that I have no reason to doubt.
When my girlfriend tells me that our daughter pooped her pants, I believe it without checking the facts.
Its reasonable, it happens every single day, so its probably true.

If someone tells me that skypapi made our planet because its the only possible "explanation" than thats lazy horseshit and I dont believe a single word. Prove it and I am with you.

If you care about the truth you cant believe in god. Because truth needs a way to be verified.

Even if god existed, not believing in him would be the right thing to do until its proven. Thats reasonable and thats how we all should approach everything in life. Thats where atheists come from. Always doubt until you know.

Also: The observable universe is finite cause it hasn't existed forever. It extends 46 billion light years in every direction from us, thats as far as we can look into it. While our universe is just 13.8 billion years old, the observable universe reaches further since the universe is in fact expanding. The observable universe is centred on us obviously because that is from where we watch. Other than that, we dont know - which is totally fine.

Quote (TiStuff @ Mar 7 2023 01:30pm)

bolded part. more faith. you cant test that you just believe what your told.

Quote (Modulok2405 @ Mar 7 2023 04:37am)

Of course you can test that. No mystery behind it. What I described is hard facts, its not even a theory. Light tells us a lot.

Quote (TiStuff @ Mar 7 2023 06:31pm)

how have you tested it?

Quote (Modulok2405 @ Mar 7 2023 09:58am)

I havent tested it on my own, but I would know how to. Me and fellow students visited nasa during a university course many years ago to this exact topic.
We learned how the age of the universe unfolded for us and how we know extremely precisely how old it is.
You can see it AND also hear it and I would suggest you to look it up with unbiased interest and learn something about it.
Its not just hearsay, its perfectly explained and visualized stuff and hundreds of actual scientists test it for themselves every single day.

That said, this is not an argument for or against god and I never claimed it would be.

Quote (TiStuff @ Mar 7 2023 07:14pm)

you didnt test it? you took it on faith?

why did you say this part? "That said, this is not an argument for or against god and I never claimed it would be"

whats the speed of light?

Quote (Modulok2405 @ Mar 7 2023 10:26am)

No I do not take it on faith, I saw a demonstration and I heard an explanation. Nothing about this topic is mystical or magical or unexplained or questionable. It is factual. This is getting ridiculous.

I said this one part because it seems like you wanna strengthen your claim of god's existience with your interpretation of this topic while this has nothing to do with it.

The speed of light is exactly what it says: Its the speed of light in a vacuum.
It is a universal physical constant that is approximately 300.000 kilometers per second or 186.000 miles per second.
It is the known upper limit of speed for matter and energy.
What does that have to do with anything here?

Quote (TiStuff @ Mar 7 2023 09:06pm)

ok you took their word for it. sounded good and you liked it. didnt like what dawkins was saying though so u tune him right out. smarter than dawkins? just testing the thought process.

ok you went with an assumption. fair enough, be careful doing that though it doesnt look good when your false.

the speed of light question? just checking where you at. people you have trust/faith in are not completely forthright with you. I picked this vid because he is a typical haughty atheist/antitheist and i figure you could relate to him.
Regarding the One-Way Speed of Light (ya you read it right, the 'one way sped of light)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1dkFfY-BZs