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Oct 31 2023 01:28pm
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ 31 Oct 2023 20:24)
Hamas' ability to threaten Israel and to launch rockets to the extent it has for 2 decades, will be obliterated. Make no mistake about that.


cowardly dodge is cowardly. israel has the means to do that without slaughtering thousands of children, and you know that. keep deluding yourself though...
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Oct 31 2023 01:29pm
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cowardly dodge is cowardly. israel has the means to do that without slaughtering thousands of children, and you know that. keep deluding yourself though...


I disagree. Otherwise they would do it.

They are acutely aware of the international condemnation they will receive in the process of removing Hamas' threat.

When you are volunteering to enter Gaza city on foot to methodically remove terrorists from tunnel systems established over decades, let us all know.
Otherwise sit in your armchair and expect Israel to expose its troops to unreasonable amounts of risk because it makes you ethically feel better about the situation.

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Oct 31 2023 01:31pm
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Oct 31 2023 12:29pm)
I disagree. Otherwise they would do it.


youre fucking delusional lmao. this is exactly the opposite of their MO, which has been public for decades

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dahiya_doctrine



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They are acutely aware of the international condemnation they will receive in the process of removing Hamas' threat.


just like theyve been acutely aware of the world condemning their occupation for the last 15+ years? hasnt stopped them at ALL

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Oct 31 2023 01:33pm
Richard Falk of the UN

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"the civilian infrastructure of adversaries such as Hamas or Hezbollah are treated as permissible military targets, which is not only an overt violation of the most elementary norms of the law of war and of universal morality, but an avowal of a doctrine of violence that needs to be called by its proper name: state terrorism."


lets call the IDF/Israel apartheid supporters for what they are: terrorist sympathizers

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youre fucking delusional lmao. this is exactly the opposite of their MO, which has been public for decades

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dahiya_doctrine





just like theyve been acutely aware of the world condemning their occupation for the last 15+ years? hasnt stopped them at ALL


Is a school building still considered a school if I fire 300 rockets from inside?
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Oct 31 2023 01:35pm
Quote (gnarjay @ Oct 31 2023 07:33pm)
Richard Falk of the UN



lets call the IDF/Israel apartheid supporters for what they are: terrorist sympathizers


If that's true your enabling Hamas. What does that make you?
In favour of beheading babies?
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Oct 31 2023 01:37pm
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If that's true your enabling Hamas. What does that make you?
In favour of beheading babies?


your right-wing word salad method wont work on me dude
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Oct 31 2023 01:45pm
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your right-wing word salad method wont work on me dude


Yes, it appears that you are beyond pragmatic reasoning.

Removing a terrorist group from your backyard isn't about being right wing or left wing.
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Oct 31 2023 01:50pm
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It is perfectly ok to invade a country ruled by a government you are at war with,


But they should only go after enemy combatants, not target civilians like women and children.

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especially one which invaded your country and killed thousands of your citizens.


I don't think Palestinians invaded anybody. More like the other way around.
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Oct 31 2023 01:54pm
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ 31 Oct 2023 20:29)
I disagree. Otherwise they would do it.

They are acutely aware of the international condemnation they will receive in the process of removing Hamas' threat.

When you are volunteering to enter Gaza city on foot to methodically remove terrorists from tunnel systems established over decades, let us all know.
Otherwise sit in your armchair and expect Israel to expose its troops to unreasonable amounts of risk because it makes you ethically feel better about the situation.


lol, you apparently haven't noticed it, but you just admitted that israel COULD do better. you just switched to arguing why they SHOULDN'T, why you prefer them slaughtering and starving children, committing war crimes against an already illegally occupied and destitute population, over "exposing" their well-equipped soldiers.

and yes, i will sit in my armchair and expect the country that considers itself the "civilised" and "humane" side, that has literally trillions worth of hardware, one of the finest intelligence networks in the world, and every surveillance equipment available at their disposal, to do better than carpet bombing and starving millions. i'll sit in my armchair and expect professional soldiers to do what they trained for, in order to prevent mass civilian casualties - while YOU sit in your armchair making excuses for indiscriminately slaughtering children.

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