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May 30 2020 03:41pm
Quote (Tyrantus @ May 31 2020 07:38am)
So true. Stringer Bell FTW.


I'm an Omar guy.
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May 30 2020 03:42pm
Quote (Plaguefear @ May 30 2020 05:01pm)
I only argue when I know 100% sure I am right or if I don't care about the subject and just want some banter.
In this situation you are just outright wrong.

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2.5x more likely.


You are vehemently wrong quite often.

Even in this case ES is essentially right.

Only looking at population size vs deaths is woefully insufficient and doesn't address ES' scenario of 2 persons specifically assaulting a police officer.
As we should all know the violent crime rates and interaction rates with police officers are not equal among different group identities, especially race.
Frequency, context and behavior play an obvious major role.

The MSM and democrats fan the flames of racial division.
They highlight cases of black people being killed by police and/or white people(or perceived as white like Zimmerman) while ignoring the opposite(despite a majority of police shooting victims being white) and heavily pushing a false narrative of widespread and prevalent 'racism' as the reason.
This happens even when the deceased party was blatantly guilty and the homicide was justifiable. To be clear, the murder of George Floyd is not one of those cases.
One of the more prominent and ridiculous statements made in connection to this persistent propagandization was Lebron saying black people are being hunted everyday everytime they go outside.

"On the most extreme use of force –officer-involved shootings – we find no racial differences in either the raw data or when contextual factors are taken into account."
Roland Fryer, Harvard study

Creating race riots, destroying neighborhoods and duping people into thinking this is only a race issue and that the state doesn't abuse and kill white people is largely counterproductive and inaccurate.
The problem is violent abuse committed by police/governments and a lack of accountability.

This post was edited by cambovenzi on May 30 2020 03:50pm
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Quote (cambovenzi @ May 31 2020 07:42am)
You are vehemently wrong quite often.

Even in this case ES is essentially right.

Only looking at population size vs deaths is woefully insufficient and doesn't address ES' scenario of 2 persons specifically assaulting a police officer.
As we should all know the violent crime rates and interaction rates with police officers are not equal among different group identities, especially race.
Frequency, context and behavior play an obvious major role.

The MSM and democrats fan the flames of racial division.
They highlight cases of black people being killed by police and/or white people(or perceived as white like Zimmerman) while ignoring the opposite(despite a majority of police shooting victims being white) and heavily pushing a false narrative of widespread and prevalent 'racism'.
This happens even when the deceased party was blatantly guilty and the homicide was justifiable. To be clear, the murder of George Floyd is not one of those cases.
One of the more prominent and ridiculous statements made as a result of this persistent propagandization was Lebron saying black people are being hunted everyday everytime they go outside.

"On the most extreme use of force –officer-involved shootings – we find no racial differences in either the raw data or when contextual factors are taken into account."
Roland Fryer, Harvard study

Creating race riots, destroying neighborhoods and duping people into thinking this is only a race issue and that the state doesn't abuse and kill white people is largely counterproductive and inaccurate.
The problem is violent abuse committed by police/governments and a lack of accountability.


I am ok with justified killings, it's the knee jerk panic killings and straight up homicides that I am not cool with.
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I am ok with justified killings, it's the knee jerk panic killings and straight up homicides that I am not cool with.


Right, thats a reasonable position to hold, but it often gets totally lost or purposefully obfuscated in the narratives that are pushed.
Same with rational interpretations of statistics and the real reasons for police abuses.
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May 30 2020 04:00pm
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Right, thats a reasonable position to hold, but it often gets totally lost or purposefully obfuscated in the narratives that are pushed.
Same with rational interpretations of statistics and the real reasons for police abuses.


No one seems to be immune to the knee jerk panic murders, a white aussie woman was shot by an American cop for having the audacity to call them about an assault she heard happening.
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Welcome to Liberal Land. If you can't win with arguments, use any flimsy pretext to justify violence.







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I'd put good money on that girl being employed, likely at a tattoo shop.
The guy leading that protest was murdered, leading to the greatest riots America has ever seen, ironic huh?

This post was edited by Plaguefear on May 30 2020 04:31pm
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May 30 2020 04:35pm
Quote (Plaguefear @ May 30 2020 05:28pm)
I'd put good money on that girl being employed, likely at a tattoo shop.
The guy leading that protest was murdered, leading to the greatest riots America has ever seen, ironic huh?


Why don't they

*FBI murders leaders

just come together

*cops arrest and kill their adult males

as a community

*schools are defunded

to solve their problems
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Quote (Thor123422 @ May 31 2020 08:35am)
Why don't they

*FBI murders leaders

just come together

*cops arrest and kill their adult males

as a community

*schools are defunded

to solve their problems


I think decriminalizing drug use will halve the issue, more education funding and scholarship grants will help too.
Then target gang culture at a community level.

This post was edited by Plaguefear on May 30 2020 04:40pm
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I think decriminalizing drug use will halve the issue, more education funding and scholarship grants will help too.
Then target gang culture at a community level.


Solving the other problems would solve the gang issues. Kids who have opportunity usually don't join gangs.
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