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Mar 5 2023 01:52am
Atheism isnt a claim, its an absence of believe in deities.


Thats where the problems of you failing to understand me originate, but not where they end.

And yeah, you acted like you knew more than everybody else, because you claimed that the existence of good is proven.
I dont know for sure if you do or dont know more than everybody else but if you say so, its just the next unproven claim.

As I said, I dont believe unproven claims of any sort.

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Quote (Modulok2405 @ Mar 4 2023 11:52pm)
Atheism isnt a claim, its an absence of believe in deities.


Thats where the problems of you failing to understand me originate, but not where they end.

And yeah, you acted like you knew more than everybody else, because you claimed that the existence of good is proven.
I dont know for sure if you do or dont know more than everybody else but if you say so, its just the next unproven claim.

As I said, I dont believe unproven claims of any sort.


ya thats still a claim and its wishy washy dumb

atheist used to mean "no God"but their arguments went to chit so they started encroaching into agnostic territory.

that I know more than everybody else is your claim.

you dont understand the definition of "proof"

its your unproven claim.

never said i did that was your assertion
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ya thats still a claim and its wishy washy dumb

atheist used to mean "no God"but their arguments went to chit so they started encroaching into agnostic territory.

that I know more than everybody else is your claim.

you dont understand the definition of "proof"

its your unproven claim.

never said i did that was your assertion


Oh I do understand the definition of proof very well, thats why I consider myself an atheist - or whatever you wanna call it.
If you think Atheists claim that god doesnt exist, than I am not what you call an Atheist.
Call me Jimmy or Johnny or however you want instead.
I am not that attached to the term Atheist. If I am not an Atheist for you, then I am not. I have no problem with it.

And nope, there is no claim on my side, wether you like it or not.
Not believing an unproven statement is no claim.
The burden of proof is always on the ones who claim something to be true.

I mean, If you personally are fine with believing something, that isnt proven to be true and you still wanna live you live based on that thing, than thats your choice and I am not here to tell you to change. Believe in god, i dont care.

I personally prefer to live my life based on facts and reality, but thats not for everyone apparently.

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Oh I do understand the definition of proof very well, thats why I consider myself an atheist - or whatever you wanna call it.
If you think Atheists claim that god doesnt exist, than I am not what you call an Atheist.
Call me Jimmy or Johnny or however you want instead.
I am not that attached to the term Atheist. If I am not an Atheist for you, then I am not. I have no problem with it.

And nope, there is no claim on my side, wether you like it or not.
Not believing an unproven statement is no claim.
The burden of proof is always on the ones who claim something to be true.

I mean, If you personally are fine with believing something, that isnt proven to be true and you still wanna live you live based on that thing, than thats your choice and I am not here to tell you to change. Believe in god, i dont care.

I personally prefer to live my life based on facts and reality, but thats not for everyone apparently.


one day maybe you can show me science that troubles my belief. as "atheists" always claim to be super duper science people

in the mean time know that your a supernatural creature, by definition.

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one day maybe you can show me science that troubles my belief

in the mean time know that your a supernatural creature, by definition.


Its not on me to show you science thats troubles your belief. Why would I try to do that? I am not on a mission to disprove anything.
Believe in whatever omnipotent supercreature, flying elephant or talking turtle you want. Not my business.

All I can say is that I do not believe in any unproven being I cant see with my own eyes. Thats a simple concept.

And thanks for calling me supernatural. Out of your mouth I take it as a compliment.

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Its not on me to show you science thats troubles your belief. Why would I try to do that? I am not on a mission to disprove anything.
Believe in whatever omnipotent supercreature, flying elephant or talking turtle you want. Not my business.

All I can say is that I do not believe in any unproven being I cant see with my own eyes. Thats a simple concept.

And thanks for calling me supernatural. Out of your mouth I take it as a compliment.


its by definition. just following the science

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its by definition. just following the science


My parents had sex, nothing supernatural about it. Just following biology.
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My parents had sex, nothing supernatural about it. Just following biology.


science has no explanation how the process started, that makes it super natural by definition.
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science has no explanation how the process started, that makes it super natural by definition.


No matter how life started, I am not supernatural. I myself am very natural.

Nothing we know or have ever known has ever been proven to be of supernatural origin. Supernaturalism might even be non-existent.

The fact that we dont know exactly how everything came to existence doesnt make it supernatural. We as humans arent supernatural by any means.

The way you define it would mean that everything that ever existed is supernatural, which would mean that naturalism doesnt even exist just because we dont know for sure how life or anything else apart from life has started to exist.
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Quote (TiStuff @ 5 Mar 2023 13:13)
science has no explanation how the process started, that makes it super natural by definition.


super dangerous ideas ^_^
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