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yeah right, the best way to demonstrate how outraged you are about accusations that your party makes light of the holocaust is to have the whole party walk out of a holocaust memorial - 'fully deserved'...

nerstheimer is still a member of the party. pretty 'interesting' biography on that guy, like on many of the party's leadership - current and former members. almost ALL of them have made public statements to that tune - those aren't just a few 'rotten apples', it's a major part of the party's identity and appeal to people like you, and we both know the only reason you're even trying to deny that is your speculation that non german speakers might not be aware of that.
some of your most prominent leading figures like höcke and gauland - are they just 'rotten apples', or do you acknowledge that their statements concerning nazi crimes represent represent party line?

like i said, on ALL levels of membership in the party, you desperate nazi apologist...


thats the point, it wasnt a holocaust memorial anymore thanks to this abomination of a speech
i am sure you didnt even watch it, but thats alright you always spread your propaganda without having a clue

"pretty 'interesting' biography on that guy"
not really, there a lot of idiots and petty criminals in the world

you cant expect a serious discussion with your double standards, "nazi poo says mean things about all blacks and muslims, generalisation is bad"
a few seconds later "all nazis, almost all of them made public statements to that tune" (no they havent)

their statements to do represent the whole party
that being said the outrage about gauland by the media industry of the 24/7 triggered (including you) was created out of nowhere by him stating in a (not very clever) way, that our history cant be reduced to 12 years
which is simply correct
höcke is a nationalist, which is still a perfectly viable stance (even though i do not agree with it), and an angry little man, who is pushing a "germany gets pushed into guilt" narrative

the term "nazi" has been dragged through the gutter so many times....most dont even know what that means anymore
a little hint for you, its not a universal term for everyone to the right you dont agree with
but maybe you simply have to dodge that, because you might realise that fanatics like you are the closest we have to nazis and your fellow antifa boys from indymedia are the new SA, this time in red though
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meanwhile in france, illegal migrants storm an airport terminal in paris

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9gx0za_i8I

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7049815/Hundreds-migrants-occupy-Frances-Charles-Gaulle-airport-call-end-deportations.html

In the footage, one demonstrator can be heard saying into a megaphone: 'France does not belong to the French! Everyone has a right to be here!'

successful celebration of diversity :santa:

france is fnished


200-500 people (people waiting for papers...) are doing some kind of protest against air france

ampoop : "france is fnished"


:rofl:

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200-500 illegals are doing some kind of protest against air france

ampoop : "france is fnished"


:rofl:


sauci you sweet summerchild, i would love to be as naive and believe that these are not the symptoms of a slowly collapsing country
but they are
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Quote (ampoo @ 21 May 2019 23:49)
thats the point, it wasnt a holocaust memorial anymore thanks to this abomination of a speech
i am sure you didnt even watch it, but thats alright you always spread your propaganda without having a clue

"pretty 'interesting' biography on that guy"
not really, there a lot of idiots and petty criminals in the world

you cant expect a serious discussion with your double standards, "nazi poo says mean things about all blacks and muslims, generalisation is bad"
a few seconds later "all nazis, almost all of them made public statements to that tune" (no they havent)

their statements to do represent the whole party
that being said the outrage about gauland by the media industry of the 24/7 triggered (including you) was created out of nowhere by him stating in a (not very clever) way, that our history cant be reduced to 12 years
which is simply correct
höcke is a nationalist, which is still a perfectly viable stance (even though i do not agree with it), and an angry little man, who is pushing a "germany gets pushed into guilt" narrative

the term "nazi" has been dragged through the gutter so many times....most dont even know what that means anymore
a little hint for you, its not a universal term for everyone to the right you dont agree with
but maybe you simply have to dodge that, because you might realise that fanatics like you are the closest we have to nazis and your fellow antifa boys from indymedia are the new SA, this time in red though


poo uses 'nO yoU!' - it's not very effective.

nazi is not a smear in this context, your party leadership has publicly downplayed nazi crimes on several occasions and openly supports marginalising them. countless members have been exposed using racially charged insults against migrants, non-white germans, and other groups and individuals they deem unworthy.
the party's strong ties with known neo-nazis are well documented, not only former members of even more openly neo-nazi parties joining the afd, but also their close collaboration. nazi ideology, terminology is widespread amongst afd members. just look at your own posts in gersub (inb4 'just trolling / joking / exaggerating'... yeah, gas chamber jokes by mr. 'herrenrasse' - just innocent fun, nothing to see here).

https://www.volksverpetzer.de/analyse/nazis-in-afd/

again, the only reason you're even trying to deny something with so much face value is your hope that people unfamiliar with german politics don't get it, but again, i do NOT use that term lightly - i've never called any of our american right wingers a nazi, you're one of only TWO people i call that, and it's well deserved.
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May 21 2019 05:14pm
Quote (ampoo @ 21 May 2019 23:56)
sauci you sweet summerchild, i would love to be as naive and believe that these are not the symptoms of a slowly collapsing country
but they are


pity distraction, will not hide nazionalist parties scandal anyway ^_^
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May 21 2019 05:15pm
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pity distraction, will not hide nazionalist parties scandal anyway ^_^


if thats the only problem you when public order is coming down, well suit yourself i guess

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poo uses 'nO yoU!' - it's not very effective.

nazi is not a smear in this context, your party leadership has publicly downplayed nazi crimes on several occasions and openly supports marginalising them. countless members have been exposed using racially charged insults against migrants, non-white germans, and other groups and individuals they deem unworthy.
the party's strong ties with known neo-nazis are well documented, not only former members of even more openly neo-nazi parties joining the afd, but also their close collaboration. nazi ideology, terminology is widespread amongst afd members. just look at your own posts in gersub (inb4 'just trolling / joking / exaggerating'... yeah, gas chamber jokes by mr. 'herrenrasse' - just innocent fun, nothing to see here).

https://www.volksverpetzer.de/analyse/nazis-in-afd/

again, the only reason you're even trying to deny something with so much face value is your hope that people unfamiliar with german politics don't get it, but again, i do NOT use that term lightly - i've never called any of our american right wingers a nazi, you're one of only TWO people i call that, and it's well deserved.


i am well aware how the likes of you define "nazi vocabulary"



finest own goal i have ever seen by this stupid and disgraceful caricature of a parliament vice president, thats the intellectual level you are arguing on

for the non german people:
the video shows a member of the afd party getting scolded by the green party parliament president for using the word "altparteien" meaning "old parties", which refers to the mainstream parties we have
she claims this term was used in the darkest ages by joseph goebbels

meanwhile in reality she has used the term herself with the quote "i insist that we distinguish ourselves from the old parties"

oops

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Quote (ampoo @ 22 May 2019 00:15)
i am well aware how the likes of you define "nazi vocabulary"


amuse me, how DO you think i define it? and even more interestingly, why are you trying so hard to deny it then? terms like 'lügenpresse', 'volksverräter', 'journaille' were popularised by nazi propaganda and are now strongly linked to those times. they were resurrected and now are widely used within the afd and by its supporters again. same thing about the party's effort to give the term 'völkisch' a positive connotation again, do all those things not fall under 'nazi vocabulary' by your definition? next you wanna tell me that 'herrenrasse' isn't a nazi term either - and suggesting to kill political opposition in gas chambers (as you did in the german subforum) also has nothing to do with nazis, you just thought it's an innocent 'joke' without any political or historical meaning, right?

inb4 'all those terms existed before, so i can just ignore that they were major cornerstones of nazi propaganda and ideology, nowadays are inseparably linked with that time and therefore usually avoided - but technically the nazi didn't invent them, so it can't be nazi vocabulary. i am very smart.'


and that's just the tip of the iceberg, just the most obvious and demonstrable examples - beneath that lies a mountain of almost deafening dog whistles, bigoted and racist comments (n-word and similar - yes, even by people at the very top of the party, like gauland), their repeated efforts to unashamedly downplay nazi crimes and their coordinated campaign to dehumanise (gesinde, schmarotzer, parasiten...) those they don't consider german enough.

it's so incredibly dishonest and spineless of you to only fully embrace that when you know that the majority of people reading it share your views (typical brownshirt mentality). on pard you're desperately trying to misinform foreign readers with intellectually questionable gotchas ('oh look, i found one example where that stupid c*nt claudia roth tried to call us out for a term that she herself once used in a different context - now every accusation of nazi terminology is invalid - so clever.'), hoping that it somehow distracts from the open and unashamed use of actual nazi lingo and symbolism (hitler salutes are reportedly also not too uncommon amongst lower rank afd members and supporters), as well as the unmistakable dogwhistles...

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Are you both German, orrrrrrrrre nah
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Are you both German, orrrrrrrrre nah


what gave us away?
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what gave us away?



Öäßü

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