Quote (thesnipa @ Apr 30 2020 05:28pm)
in Wisconsin all our gov did was order "nonessential" businesses to close, but didn't define it at all. so almost literally everyone stayed open. the only businesses I know of that were shut down by police were a few bars trying to stay open and Hobby Lobby. quite literally everything else is still open, although many with drive up orders only. the only other closures are businesses voluntarily if an outbreak occurs. and of course schools were closed, but the universities all closed or went to online classes previous to the governor order. our reopening plan should be easy to make, its basically just groundwork for reopening restaurants and bars. even liquor/tobacco stores here stayed open. casinos did shut down, but from memory it was previous to gov order.
WI projected 725,000 job losses across 48,000 companies, so I doubt "almost literally everyone" stayed open. A "few" bars? Don't youhave th e most bars per capita? Like in the world?
Quote (theCrossbones @ Apr 30 2020 06:01pm)
Yes i know what it means.. Do you really think there is a choice here? Is it your opinion that the economy and health care system would of survived fine with no restrictions?
If no then what level what business should be shut down.
My opinion left unchecked the virus would of shut us down on its own with who knows how many more fatalities etc.
So you are upset by? The fact the government is asking you to stay in place when they don't have the right or you saying you don't believe people should? Or you just don't like it?
What I can agree on is the neither the states or the fed has ANY good re opening plan.
You see no irony in the R wing survivalist group crying like babies right now?
If we had a government that was straight with us instead of treating us like children? Yeah, we'd be fine. Yes, there would be more deaths NOW, and fewer later. In the meantime, more people could still be at work. Sweden is saying they're already getting close to a herd immunity effect.
No business should be "shut down." Instead, people should be advised to take all necessary extra precautions to be out in public safely and let them be adults.
The government isn't ASKING. I don't mind following sound advise. I absolutely mind being told what to do.
Lol, "crying." Protesting is crying when the right does it, and RESISTANCE when the left does it, amirite?
Quote (Thor123422 @ Apr 30 2020 06:03pm)
In a lot of situations there aren't reasonable precautions you can take. Crowded places are dangerous for yourself and others even with masks and the like. I don't think sit down restaurants can really be said to be safe no matter the precautions, since you're in a room with rotating groups of people within a few feet and have to take your masks off to eat, for example.
The outdoors is absolutely safe, in relative terms. Sweden's restaurants aren't closed forcibly, but are mostly vacant by voluntary actions of the public. But people can still work, and people can still sit far away from someone else.