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Apr 27 2020 05:51am
Quote (fender @ Apr 27 2020 07:47am)
the irony of calling the FACT that you have a shitty and bad healthcare system 'propaganda'. even some trumptards are smarter and more aware of that than you. just think about that for a second, if you can.


We just have very expensive health care for what we get. It's OK services we just get ripped off on every single one. The reason we're getting ripped office because you're making a non profitable industry make profit.

We are literally paid twice as much as we should for the same service this just to maintain the 1%.

You get MRI in Japan for one hundred dollars or less. Here you can't get below one thousand. Same skills, same machine, same amount of time.

The number one cause of bankruptcy in the United States has been medical bankruptcy for decades.....

Some of these right wing activists would rather see the 1% make money then see their neighbors keep their houses lol.

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We just have very expensive health care for what we get. It's OK services we just get ripped off on every single one. The reason we're getting ripped office because you're making a non profitable industry make profit.

We are literally paid twice as much as we should for the same service this just to maintain the 1%.

You get MRI in Japan for one hundred dollars or less. Here you can't get below one thousand. Same skills, same machine, same amount of time.

The number one cause of bankruptcy in the United States has been medical bankruptcy for decades.....

Some of these right wing activists would rather see the 1% make money then see their neighbors keep their houses lol.


don't get me wrong, i'm not suggesting the quality of treatment, if you can afford it, is sub-par.

the SYSTEM is though: having healthcare tied to your job, heavily profit incentivised, leaving the pharma and insurance industry largely unregulated, leading to insane price gouging, resulting in millions of un- and under-insured citizens, either going bankrupt or even dying from a lack of access to affordable healthcare - THAT's what's so shitty and broken about it, and quite frankly unjustifiable in such a rich country.

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Rural hospitals would be doing worse without state and federal support.

Rural people wouldn't have electricity without the government. They aren't profitable people to have services for.... That's why being poor in the country so much worse than being poor in the city... The country has 0 infrastructure as there is 0 investment because they have 0 things going on. They don't have many jobs that offer good retirement benefits or health care. You go move heavy objects for cash. They expext the government to help them because they promised to. These people have no savings and they're going to need nursing homes.

Not insisting one mode of living is better than in the other but these are harsh realities. They voted for trump as an act of desperation it's not panning out at all.


He's raising the point like it was vulture venture capitalists that swooped down, bought up assets, and then closed them down. The fact is that they stayed in business another 6 years after the purchase, trying to keep the systems up and running. Clearly to no avail. Very few rural hospitals are private as it is (roughly 1/6, IIRC).

Quote (fender @ Apr 27 2020 06:47am)
the irony of calling the FACT that you have a shitty and broken healthcare system 'propaganda'. even some trumptards are smarter and more aware of that than you. just think about that for a second, if you can.


I'm not capable of getting my head so far up my ass that I can see things from your point of view.
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He's raising the point like it was vulture venture capitalists that swooped down, bought up assets, and then closed them down. The fact is that they stayed in business another 6 years after the purchase, trying to keep the systems up and running. Clearly to no avail. Very few rural hospitals are private as it is (roughly 1/6, IIRC).



I'm not capable of getting my head so far up my ass that I can see things from your point of view.


you really should actually read the article and familiarise yourself with the facts, instead of just selectively quoting the one line that you hilariously and erroneously consider to support your moronic 'the market will take care of it' delusion...
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stumbled upon a klantifa’s twitter who is documenting she/him going around stalking asian males

just not sure which user here is the rightful owner of said twitter:

https://forums.d2jsp.org/user.php?i=840089
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https://forums.d2jsp.org/user.php?i=138769
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Apr 27 2020 07:16am
Quote (Santara @ Apr 27 2020 08:33am)
He's raising the point like it was vulture venture capitalists that swooped down, bought up assets, and then closed them down. The fact is that they stayed in business another 6 years after the purchase, trying to keep the systems up and running. Clearly to no avail. Very few rural hospitals are private as it is (roughly 1/6, IIRC).



I'm not capable of getting my head so far up my ass that I can see things from your point of view.


One just tried to get running in Georgetown and failed. It was a for-profit from Ooglethorpe Corporation and they have a few successful ones here. It was gonna open for the longest time, because for about 2 years i would get visits from their liasion seeking referrals for when they were to open.

Georgetown is a shitty smaller ohio city and that whole side of the state has been destroyed by heroin, and this place would have offered dual diagnosis treatment, which is hard to find.

But they couldn't do it.

I know it is a for profit hospital and for profit hospitals and non private hospitals are a little bit different but they still face the same struggles they still have to be saw that they still have to overcome the same barriers..... For profit hospitals have it easier because they could be selective with their patients.... Non profits have many more patients though because they take medicare and medicaid but can't say no to provide life sustaining care.... Not profit hospitals take care of more people for less money essentially, but a lot of that is public money.


Quote (excellence @ Apr 27 2020 09:00am)
https://i.imgur.com/EzVEVO0.jpg

stumbled upon a klantifa’s twitter who is documenting she/him going around stalking asian males

just not sure which user here is the rightful owner of said twitter:

https://forums.d2jsp.org/user.php?i=840089
or
https://forums.d2jsp.org/user.php?i=138769


Detain him for questioning him lol.

Is this Poe's law?

This post was edited by Skinned on Apr 27 2020 07:18am
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https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/04/what-covid-revealed-about-internet/610549/



{this is what neoliberals actually believe}

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Apr 27 2020 09:58am
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Yeah cool let's just conflate authoritarian with neoliberal because you like tariffs.
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Apr 27 2020 10:38am
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Yeah cool let's just conflate authoritarian with neoliberal because you like tariffs.


Sweep it under the rug because you don't like it.

Name one social media platform that doesn't endorse this idealogy.
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Apr 27 2020 11:07am
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Sweep it under the rug because you don't like it.

Name one social media platform that doesn't endorse this idealogy.


4chan /b/
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