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May 26 2022 11:10pm
Quote (Goomshill @ 26 May 2022 18:35)
https://qz.com/2170207/we-ordered-the-ar-15-rifle-used-in-uvalde-heres-how-easy-it-is/

The quality of clickbait articles trying to profit off dead kids

"We ordered the same rifle as the killer used, and it only took 5 clicks and no age or background check! Except its shipping to a FFL dealer. Where all the age and background check are performed."


“At no time were we asked for proof of age or of a clean criminal record, both of which are legally required to buy a firearm. That will happen when we pick up the gun at a local licensed dealer.”

so they wont get access to the gun until they provide the legal documentation to a licensed (laws in effect here) dealer?
what a riveting article

meanwhile i know a couple alleys near where i used to live where one can get a street sweeper for a steal. every city has a couple of these alleys

This post was edited by excellence on May 26 2022 11:11pm
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May 26 2022 11:43pm
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“At no time were we asked for proof of age or of a clean criminal record, both of which are legally required to buy a firearm. That will happen when we pick up the gun at a local licensed dealer.”

so they wont get access to the gun until they provide the legal documentation to a licensed (laws in effect here) dealer?
what a riveting article

meanwhile i know a couple alleys near where i used to live where one can get a street sweeper for a steal. every city has a couple of these alleys


Obviously there is no age that can tell whether or not someone is a psycho, but 18 without a record that disqualifies isn't exactly a small group of kids.

We definitely need stricter laws on legal ownership regardless of illegal means of ownership. I mean the chances of an 18 year old having issues related to schools is significantly higher than a 21 year old.
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May 27 2022 06:12am
Quote (lodd222 @ May 26 2022 03:16pm)
They complain about psy ops killing their kids yet sent them to a brain washing facility on a daily basis meanwhile
homeless Caucasians across america are being beaten to death by police officers while no crime or initiation of violence was committed
~ it was simply because they were sovereign & thusly a threat to the NWO:

https://i.ibb.co/PQ6dLkd/Screen-Shot-2022-05-26-at-5-10-59-PM.png

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vn-YYGQi2Eo

they were moved, & tried in an all cop district + jury where they were let go while asking for compensation in return for their "innocence".
The cops even said they would kill him on camera and they did just that, it's not about justice, it's about evil might, and that is
just-ice cold.


True. There’s some other details being purposefully ignored by a lot of news outlets. Here are some examples.

Dressed up in womens clothes. Thanks liberal teachers pushing gender pollution. Most websites scrubbed his cross dressing images or refuse to post them for fear of liberal alphabet backlash (more violence).
Fatherless, most common factor for all criminals in all states and races.
Allegedly drug addicted mother, haven’t heard much other than they fought a lot.
Bullied in school by fellow students. Lack of morality, sure sounds like no one was trying to help him.
Had planned his attack so any gun waiting period would’ve delayed not stopped his killing spree, he waited, he didn’t snap and steal a gun and shoot people on a whim. He broke long ago.
Constantly fought with coworkers at Wendy’s. Gave troubling phrases like “do you know who I am?” which is a sign of grandiose delusion.
Gonna repeat that second one, FATHERLESS. Product of liberal ideology that family doesn’t matter and the government should be the father.
Had he been unable to buy a gun it probably would’ve been a knife spree, death is death.

If people want answers they can look in the mirror at who created a monster. Stop breeding psychosis, return to sanity. This didn’t happen 60 years ago like it does now. We had 2 parent homes and teachers taught math and science not freaky sex politics. Bearded women weren’t coercing little kids to change how they “identify”. “Wait til your father gets home” probably prevented a lot of troubled kids from growing up to hate and attack society. There will always be a bad seed here and there. The point of a civilized society is to recognize and either fix it or lock it away before it poisons its surroundings. These people have screwed up 3 generations now, and look around at the aftermath.
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May 27 2022 06:20am
Quote (justhackitup @ 27 May 2022 15:12)
True. There’s some other details being purposefully ignored by a lot of news outlets. Here are some examples.

Dressed up in womens clothes. Thanks liberal teachers pushing gender pollution. Most websites scrubbed his cross dressing images or refuse to post them for fear of liberal alphabet backlash (more violence).
Fatherless, most common factor for all criminals in all states and races.
Allegedly drug addicted mother, haven’t heard much other than they fought a lot.
Bullied in school by fellow students. Lack of morality, sure sounds like no one was trying to help him.
Had planned his attack so any gun waiting period would’ve delayed not stopped his killing spree, he waited, he didn’t snap and steal a gun and shoot people on a whim. He broke long ago.
Constantly fought with coworkers at Wendy’s. Gave troubling phrases like “do you know who I am?” which is a sign of grandiose delusion.
Gonna repeat that second one, FATHERLESS. Product of liberal ideology that family doesn’t matter and the government should be the father.
Had he been unable to buy a gun it probably would’ve been a knife spree, death is death.

If people want answers they can look in the mirror at who created a monster. Stop breeding psychosis, return to sanity. This didn’t happen 60 years ago like it does now. We had 2 parent homes and teachers taught math and science not freaky sex politics. Bearded women weren’t coercing little kids to change how they “identify”. “Wait til your father gets home” probably prevented a lot of troubled kids from growing up to hate and attack society. There will always be a bad seed here and there. The point of a civilized society is to recognize and either fix it or lock it away before it poisons its surroundings. These people have screwed up 3 generations now, and look around at the aftermath.


Having two fathers instead of one will fix such situations completely
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May 27 2022 06:57am
Quote (fender @ May 26 2022 02:44pm)
from flawed statistics and bad logic to lazy whataboutisms without hesitation... you're really committed to dying on this hill for your masters, huh? "elites rule everywhere" is a meaningless phrase, because it does NOT mean that elites elsewhere rule as comprehensively and exclusively as in the US. how does that boot taste?

also, it's an even worse argument to suggest you have to tolerate children being gunned down regularly because at some point you'd totally use your guns to stop your tyrannical government - especially when history suggests the opposite, and common sense tells you that the gun issue is actually a benefit to the ruling class, deepening division and lowering the chance of their power being challenged by a united population.

today's gun nuts are the last people who'd ever revolt. they are the first to lick authority's boot, the first to get instrumentalised to attack their fellow americans over some made up culture war issue, and the last ones to push for any kind of meaningful change. you really need to stop lying to yourself, it's embarrassing...


Bold - Not an argument.

The below should help explain why there's such a disconnect between your perception and reality. If everyone so badly oppressed had the highest median income in the world (outside of dark money Switzerland and oil money Norway), you might be a little reluctant to revolt too.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/median-income-by-country
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May 27 2022 07:43am
I'm sure its state by state but do most states require you to take a firearms handling course that has a practical session and costs money to get a licence?

Here in Canada you have to do the PAL course which has a pratical exam and written exam over a few days. Then you have to do a background check with the RCMP that takes about 60 days where they dig 5-10 years back in your history (if they actually do this who knows but you have to provide details). Then you get a licence.

If you want handguns its further courses and exams since those are considered restricted firearms.


Yes, there's a black market but it definitely provides a barrier to entry for your average suburban idiot reducing the overall guns floating around. Its certainly far from perfect but its something.

I will say the exams are obviously very easy and common sense but even in my course they failed a few people for mishandling them during the practical portion.

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May 27 2022 08:03am
Quote (SBD @ May 27 2022 08:43am)
I'm sure its state by state but do most states require you to take a firearms handling course that has a practical session and costs money to get a licence?

Here in Canada you have to do the PAL course which has a pratical exam and written exam over a few days. Then you have to do a background check with the RCMP that takes about 60 days where they dig 5-10 years back in your history (if they actually do this who knows but you have to provide details). Then you get a licence.

If you want handguns its further courses and exams since those are considered restricted firearms.


Yes, there's a black market but it definitely provides a barrier to entry for your average suburban idiot reducing the overall guns floating around. Its certainly far from perfect but its something.

I will say the exams are obviously very easy and common sense but even in my course they failed a few people for mishandling them during the practical portion.


https://giffords.org/lawcenter/gun-laws/policy-areas/owner-responsibilities/licensing/

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permit to purchase”: Nine states have enacted permit to purchase licensing schemes that require prospective purchasers obtain a permit or license before buying at least some firearms.

“License to own”: Three states—Illinois, Massachusetts, and New York—require a license to own firearms (New York’s law applies only to handguns). Unlike a permit to purchase, a license to own a firearm must remain valid for as long as the person owns the firearm.

Firearm Safety Certificate: Two states—California and Washington—require prospective firearm purchasers to first obtain a certificate showing that they have completed required firearm safety training. California requires this for all firearms, Washington requires it only for semiautomatic rifles.

Registration: One jurisdiction—the District of Columbia—has a registration law that also functions as a license requirement.



https://maps.everytownresearch.org/navigator/states.html?dataset=background_checks&states=NY

Another helpful tool

This post was edited by NetflixAdaptationWidow on May 27 2022 08:05am
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May 27 2022 08:17am
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That's unfortunate, our licence encompasses all four categories. It's required for purchase, must maintain a valid one to own a firearm, purchase ammunition, etc and the only way to get it is via firearms safety courses and background checks by our federal police body.

Renewal is every 5 years.

If you want to be a responsible firearm owner I think the bare minimum should be a course with a written and practical exam along with a background check. I don't know what argument there is against that except "freedom". We have accepted there's barriers to other things like requiring to write a test and do a practical to get a licence for a vehicle.

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Quote (justhackitup @ May 27 2022 08:12am)
True. There’s some other details being purposefully ignored by a lot of news outlets. Here are some examples.

Dressed up in womens clothes. Thanks liberal teachers pushing gender pollution. Most websites scrubbed his cross dressing images or refuse to post them for fear of liberal alphabet backlash (more violence).
Fatherless, most common factor for all criminals in all states and races.
Allegedly drug addicted mother, haven’t heard much other than they fought a lot.
Bullied in school by fellow students. Lack of morality, sure sounds like no one was trying to help him.
Had planned his attack so any gun waiting period would’ve delayed not stopped his killing spree, he waited, he didn’t snap and steal a gun and shoot people on a whim. He broke long ago.
Constantly fought with coworkers at Wendy’s. Gave troubling phrases like “do you know who I am?” which is a sign of grandiose delusion.
Gonna repeat that second one, FATHERLESS. Product of liberal ideology that family doesn’t matter and the government should be the father.
Had he been unable to buy a gun it probably would’ve been a knife spree, death is death.

If people want answers they can look in the mirror at who created a monster. Stop breeding psychosis, return to sanity. This didn’t happen 60 years ago like it does now. We had 2 parent homes and teachers taught math and science not freaky sex politics. Bearded women weren’t coercing little kids to change how they “identify”. “Wait til your father gets home” probably prevented a lot of troubled kids from growing up to hate and attack society. There will always be a bad seed here and there. The point of a civilized society is to recognize and either fix it or lock it away before it poisons its surroundings. These people have screwed up 3 generations now, and look around at the aftermath.


Amen to all this, it's sickening that the school allows and pushes the agenda they have on our kids. If they would treat these behaviors for what they really are, he probably would have had some help or guidance.
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May 27 2022 08:26am
Quote (SBD @ May 27 2022 09:17am)
That's unfortunate, our licence encompasses all four categories. It's required for purchase, must maintain a valid one to own a firearm, purchase ammunition, etc and the only way to get it is via firearms safety courses and background checks by our federal police body.

Renewal is every 5 years.

If you want to be a responsible firearm owner I think the bare minimum should be a course with a written and practical exam along with a background check. I don't know what argument there is against that except "freedom". We have accepted there's barriers to other things like requiring to write a test and do a practical to get a licence for a vehicle.


American conservatives, Democrats and Republicans alike, have decided that dead kids and rampant untreated mental illness is worth the freedom.
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